Hello, Well it's taking me a few days to get back to you. We have had thunderstorms here for the last couple of days and it finally cleared. This computer has been unpluged because of severe storms, so sorry I am late getting back to you. Randy: I tried CCleaner on one of my computers a few years back and for some reason it never downloaded right, so I decided not to try and install it again and removed what was there. Zep516:I think some of the problem with these 2 programs in particular is when they are updated they end up starting up again--yes another poorly written program. You are absolutely right there. The people who built this computer took out the icon and also took it out of startup and when I updated it the icon etc came back. I have no idea what they used to get Kodak EasyShare out of the startup program and remove the icon. QuickStart has always been there but I just right click on it and shut it down. I also do the same for Kodak EasyShare. DA: I have heard of WinPatrol but have never used it. I was pretty new here when these programs were brought up and I was afraid to try anything that I didn't understand. No ones fault, just mine and me being scared to try them. Winpatrol will want to be part of the startup too. So it also has to be disabled and then it will be an on-demand utility. After its inital use and any other future usage you will only have to close WP from the Notification Area by right-clicking on the icon. Aren't there any programs out there that doesn't want to be a part of startup? It seems to me that you are just trading one program for another that wants to go to startup. Am I correct in thinking this? Also, remember I stated disable not delete. Delete is permanent, disable is temporary. Got Ya! "Wink" Oh no, just went downstairs and part of my basement is flooded. What next? Ugh! Time to get the mop. thirdfrt!!!

Sounds like IE Browser, 125%---> for that issue in the browser open the View tab at the top, and make sure there is a check mark in in "Status Bar", not sure about green squares,

I don't believe you are talking about quick launch. I don't know any sure cure unless you restore to an earlier date. You can try a few other things. Open a program and at the top (Title Bar) right click it and click Maxmize and than click Minimize. Something else with a program open to maximize hold down on the Alt Key First and than the Spacebar and press N Try My Documents. It should Minimize to the Taskbar. You can also open a few things and click on Default. If you have changed your Icons in All Programs and click Default they will also change to Default. That's just a minor detail.

OK- found answer to own question...sorry