Replacing Jenn-Air downdraft range on interior wall
julieste
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Does Jenn Air downdraft work for serious cooking?
Comments (10)When one is cooking with high heat, the uprising effluent velocity can be 3 ft/s. When this is intercepted by an overhanging hood, it is feasible to capture and contain it with modest air flow rates (90 cfm/ft^2 with baffles). However, when using a downdraft aperture at the back of the cooking surface, capture and containment would have to start with redirecting the effluent momentum from rising to horizontal motion at the aperture. This requires at least as much transverse velocity at the effluent as the effluent has (causing a curving trajectory). However, air velocity outside of a duct drops rapidly with distance, meaning that for full capture of effluent from the front burners using a downdraft aperture the size of the cooktop, the air velocity at the entrance to the downdraft system might have to approach ten times that of the effluent. 30 ft/s is 20 mph close to the mesh, and maybe 40 mph through the mesh gaps, so one can imagine that the noise level might be a tad higher than desirable. Hot greasy cooking only on back burners might reduce the ten times factor to three times, so a large exhaust blower that could handle the restrictions (pressure losses) of a downdraft system might be effective, albeit still somewhat noisy. To the extent that they are cost and aesthetically feasible, hoods approximating commercial units will be more effective than hoods that greatly diverge from this pattern. kas...See Morejenn air downdraft range with gas pulls flame sideways
Comments (4)Well Maytag was worthless but a local appliance servicer called me back and said that the old "factory fix" for this evidently common problem was to restrict flow at the outlet. He said: drill a hole through the cap over the flapper, stick a 3 or 4 inch bolt in backwards (bolt head inside the cap) with a nut on the inside and a nut on the ouside. Adjust the protrusion of the bolt to hold the flapper partly closed when the fan is running. Fiddle with the bolt until you have a nice balance of exhaust vs flame pattern. Pretty good trick, thought I'd share it with any other sufferers....See MoreMoving downdraft Jenn-Air
Comments (5)I have an old Jenn-Air downdraft vented through a small, inaccessible crawl space exiting through a foundation wall. After many years of suffering through cold winters in upstate NY, with the vent serving as a cold wind tunnel despite the flap on the vent cover, I finally closed it off last month by removing the cover and spraying foam in and around the opening. The kitchen finally feels warm (even with outside temps minus 15) and the range and oven work fine. If Spring ever arrives, I'll have to decide about a permanent fix. Note that the vent is still attached, but not in use. In your situation, would there be a hole at the bottom of the range or do you plan to close it off in some way?...See MoreReplacing old 46.5" Jenn-Air cooktop with downdraft
Comments (6)>>>"If we do end up replacing the countertop, will we have problems installing a 36 inch cooktop in a 48 inch cabinet? #1 on my list for induction is the 36" Wolf"<<< Not a problem with a 48" base cabinet. Actually, your choice of a Wolf cooktop avoids problems even if you later decide to replace that 48" base cabinet with a 36" one. IIRC, Wolf thoughtfully designed their cooktops to need cut-outs a bit less than 34½" inches. (That is for the subsurface box containing the burner components, control electronics and mechanicals like fans.) Other brands are a much tighter fit if they aren't too wide altogether for a standard 36" base cabinet. Remember that the 36" measurement is the outside dimension; the interior space is diminished by the thickness of the side walls which, depending on what the cabinet is made from, will be something between 1¼ and 1½" narrower than the outside dimension. That's the subject of the discussion at theinductionsite.com that I referenced above.) But, maybe, your concern was weight of very-full extremely large pots on the cooktop? Are you planning on boiling 10 gallons of wort in a huge brewing kettle? Making 10 gallons of pasta at a time? Frankly, I'd be more concerned about the weight-carrying limitations of the cooktop's ceram/glass surface. (Some cooktop's use and care guides caution against pots which, with contents, weigh more than 50 pounds.) Of course, if you need "belt-and-suspenders" reassurance, you just add a couple cross braces at the top of the cabinet on either side of the cutout. >>>"I think I would prefer frameless, but in another thread I read that it's harder to lift out that cooktop if we were to replace our cabinets later." <<< Why lift out the cooktop when will you will be immediately putting those countertops back on top of the new base cabinets when and if you swap the base cabinets? We've always left cooktops and sinks in the counters when lifting countertops that we intend to put back on. It might l be a different matter with a pop-up downdraft vent. (Yes, you will want venting even with induction.) The one time I had to work on telecoping downdraft vent, it was pretty easy to disconnect the countertop=portion from the rest of the unit. That may not be true of all of them. Something to check on when shopping. >>>"we're just trying to make the right decision as far as timing goes."<<< I'd be inclined to replace laminate countertops now, all other things being equal. Laminate counters are very serviceable without being expensive. Generally, laminate is pretty easy to work with. Usually not expensive if you need/want custom sizes or counter shapes. Can do a lot to pep up a well used kitchen. Also, much easier to install a new cooktop and telescoping downdraft in a new counter than trying to fabricate a temporary set-up over the old, longer but narrower cut-out. (IIRC. the old Jenn Airs had two 3 to 4 inch vent grates in between the 3 pairs of burners, which is what resulted in the odd length of the unit. An add-on downdraft will need to sit at the back of the cooktop, and you thus wind up needing a very different cutout. BTW, have you seen the threads from the last year or two here where there were discussions of how to install a range hood to connect with the old down-draft vent's ducting?...See Morejulieste
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