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Comments (6)Down here we use open cell above grade and closed cell below Building Science articles do mention both cc and oc being used in attics, but they explicitly recommend cc. See "Unvented Roofs for All Climates" and "Understanding Attic Ventilation" (See Link below.) As I mentioned above, cc is excellent in attics as it acts as a secondary liquid water barrier. At the same time, it is permeable, allowing vapour to move both ways depending on the season. As for "hiding" leaks, I have seen commentary from foam appliers who handle all kinds of foam say that in case of leaks cc focuses the water, so it's easier to spot the source. Because oc foam is more permeable and holds water, the R value is degraded, which means the sheathing is more easily reaching dewpoint, which is not desirable. The same logic applies below grade. The one time I used oc foam, it was applied in cold weather and shrunk back considerably around the rim joists; this is recognized in the literature but brushed off as a minor quibble. When I've used cc foam in basements, rim joists, garage ceilings and attics (but not under the decking) I had none of those problems. Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry had a famous comment about opinions--that I won't use here. That's why I try to reference mine to Building Science, whose principals are among the leading building scientists around; and who are also the source of much info at the US Energy Department --Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy--Building Technologies Department. Here is a link that might be useful: Vented and Unvented Roof Recommendations...See MoreLooking for referrals/feedback on blown in cellulose insulation
Comments (1)Hi. This might be too late for your project but I just came across this post while I was searching for something else entirely. I am not sure I understand what a cockloft is so I won't comment on your project scope. We used JC Home Corp a couple of yrs ago to insulate the exterior walls of our ranch and they were great. I hope you are aware that they make holes in each stud bay and fill through that. We had one issue due to some inherent structural holes between the exterior walls and the floor of our bathroom-the cellulose made its way to the basement and that was one big mess! They came back promptly and helped us clean the mess. At the time, there was a Federal rebate program and they sent the paperwork to us promptly. Good Luck!...See MoreRemoving cellulose insulation
Comments (4)Thank you, spielbass & brickeyee for your responses. I really don't dook forward to dealing with this mess, but it has to be done. I would like to find a way to vacuum the stuff out before I demo the ceiling. There is a gable vent close by. Is there some kind of giant vacuum system that I can rent to go through that vent and suck the stuff out? I even thought of calling a company that cleans air conditioning ducts. They have some kind of truck with a vacuum in it. I am pleased to hear that the black powdery mess might be another paper pulp insulation. I'll check that out....See Morehow to install cellulose insulation
Comments (15)Hey appletnc. fire hazard with old wire a yes. I checked with my fire department as well. Replace old wire before going down walls. I did blow insulation myself in my 100 yr house down the walls.I did it upstairs and down stairs and in the ceiling. I never did it before, but it was a little messy. I only drilled 1 hole at the top not at bottom. I don't know why they said put one at bottom. I had a guy whose done it many times give me some advise. He never mentioned to do that. I did take off the siding instead of doing drywall. I tried one room inside the house and it took me awhile to get all those holes looking smooth again once I patched them. I ordered the plugs from lowes. I filled the cavity. Put in the plug and back on with the siding. All the mess stayed out side.. It made the world of diff. down stairs. Upstairs it helped some, but i think my heating unit is to small. Ps. It was much quicker doing it from outside than inside. If you compare to cutting holes in walls, plugging, remud, sand , remud, sand, remud , sand and paint. Verses take siding off, cut holes ,plug, put siding back on. No sheet rock dust or insulation in house. Hope this helps....See Moreenergy_rater_la
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