I guess my response is too late for the OP's information. However, I have replaced toilets in three houses. The first house had two BR's and the next two had three bathrooms. First house was our entry level house in the Los Angeles market; we installed two boring Kohlers that performed well and quietly and I never needed a plumber for anything. Our next move up house was a huge jump up in cost, it was almost double square footage but the premium in cost was mostly because it had an amazing ocean view and marina view and this even from the shower in the master bath. In this house we upgraded with Kohler's San Raphael in the master and guest bath and in the powder room, we splurged on the St. Martin (or San Martine?) an incredibly beautiful toilet with what we thought was a pretty high price tag of over $800, which was a lot for that time period (the early 90s) though not so much in these days of the $3000 "hatbox" toilet from Kohler. None of these toilets ever caused a problem, though our plumber who was the BEST, (JEFF of family-owned and run Argyll Plumbing, if you're reading this out there in Torrance CA. it is you to whom I refer as the BEST) warned us that we possibly could have problems with the high-end San Martine but these never developed, at least not while we still owned the home. Because of a precipitous move downward in the income and wealth index by a lot (thanks to very serious mistakes by physicians at the Jacksonville Fl. Mayo Clinic, mistakes that could and should have been caught and avoided, mistakes that served to end my husband's corporate and international business development career with its comfortable income and more important, true meaning in his life, while at the same time our savings got used up and our retirement funds were almost breathlessly depleted while we looked on, heads spinning, and as we are now, the proverbial unhappy campers, saddled with credit card debt run up in a few years time but that will take years if ever to pay off, and forced to be "re-educated" and to deal with new goals not of our making: like living on a fixed income that has little extra for not much of anything and maintaining a home that we'd rather not, since our goal at the time this all began had been to sell the house and return to the West Coast, our real home, but then this "merde" came our way and by God, did it ever hit the fan!) the Kohlers in our three bathrooms in our current home are more modest models, either the Kohler Highline or the pretty little Kohler Santa Rosa. These toilets got replaced a second time though because of the newly introduced comfort height toilet, this a great feature that hadn't been available in 1999 when we moved into the one-year-old home and immediately upgraded the cheapy contractor's grade toilets, and a feature that we would only come to fully appreciate later on (my husband has had both of his hips surgically replaced,plus one knee, so far) and now wouldn't give up for any reason. We are getting around to replacing the master bath's standard-height Santa Rosa and I've come to this dependable forum for help with our decision. Because decisions like this now take on amazing significance. So rather than replace a Santa Rosa with another Santa Rosa, even as pretty as they are, we are seriously considering the Kohler Persuade Curv. I love the look, its slender beauty and the ease of cleaning the look suggests. (I'm not getting any younger). But I hesitated and have for a while. It doesn't seem possible that Kohler could offer that great look (a smooth bowl that jumped forward into the 21st century, leaving behind the tired look that mimicked the pipes, the interior function) and do it at a price point that actually was possibly attainable by the majority of the toilet-needing masses, this from the company that shocked the world (well, I was shocked!) with the $3000 "hatbox" toilet. After many years of nothing but success with Kohler toilets now when we don't have the resources to reverse a bad decision, the wrong choice, after all I've read about the Persuade, I am stuck. Is going with the Kohler Persuade because of the beauty of the look, (and because I internet shopped and found a very very good price) while I bury my head in the sand as to any problems lurking down the road, problems I learned about also on the internet as I researched WHICH KOHLER TO BUY, is all this by definition telling me I'm in a new world here and to tread carefully with my few precious dollars?

Wi-sailorgil, let me know how you like your Carolina II please. I have 2 of the original Carolina skirted toilets, the last one was installed in the last month or so. I wasn't sure if I wanted the toilet to be taller and was not familiar with how the water swished around on the inside and if it would effectively clean the bowl after use. I was so happy with the look and operation of the original I just kept with that. Please let me know. Some cities are offering a rebate for the installation of the 1.28g flow. Dade county Fla. Is offering 100.00 last I checked. You might want to check your area.

"Does anyone have any experience buying this quantity from an online retailer and is my ~$2,000 possible savings better invested in "insurance" of not having to deal with the delivery and possible return hassles?" I bought my toto ultramax toilet in a custom black color from homeclick 3 yrs. ago. I had NO problems whatsover. And I also SAVED A BUNDLE. I had other delivery problems with a hansgrohe showerhead from them, but the toilet was on time and on schedule. Remember, your manufacturer of choice has a lot to do with delivery from Homeclick. Sometimes, Homeclick can only deliver what the manufacturer will deliver. I came out ahead. When ordering from online, you can only win. However, you must order well ahead of time to be sure that you'll win. In my state, sales tax is 9.5 percent. Online, I don't pay sales tax. Homeclick runs holiday sales that are 10% off. Add that to the sales tax savings for my state, and i get nearly 20% off with free shipping. Since the big box stores charge shipping and delivery, obviously I save with Homeclick.

I love my Caroma dual flush toilets. no cleaning issues (other than my 6 yr old who can hit everything in bathroom BUT the bowl). I have had the Colonial for 3+ years and added the Brisbane last year when we redid the kids bath. It is super cool round looking and they love it. Never had a flushing issues and we had constant issues with the Kohler that we replaced. They were good value for a great high end look. http://alternacorp.com/products/caroma-toilets.php Here is a link that might be useful: Caroma Toilets