Were you unhappy with the Toto brand?

They seemed very loud - but were our first low water toilets. They also needed cleaning every day. Maybe it was the design. But, they didn't clog.

What kind of Toto's did you have?

Ultramax one piece elongated

We have a Ultramax one piece elongated in my husband's bathroom. YES, it needs cleaning everyday. Doesn't get cleaned every day but it should be. I didn't know if it was him or the toilet. Maybe it's the toilet :o
Monica

American Standard Cadet 3. We put this style, chair height, elongated, in our mbath reno about a year ago. Stays clean, doesn't clog.

I guess I'm missing something here. Why would a toilet need to be cleaned every day? That seems like a total deal breaker to me. Please explain, as I will be replacing the toilet in my husband's bathroom soon and definitely do not want to have to clean it every day (it is also a downstairs bathroom that others use). Thanks!

It is hard to explain without being graphic. I'll try - sorry for being gross. It seems that if all of the solid waste doesn't go directly into the water in the bowl but rather on the sides of the toilet, it isn't washed away. It stays there after repeated flushings and has to be cleaned away with a brush. We did not have the sanigloss finish - maybe that would help.

OK, I get it. That is definitely a deal breaker. And how would one know this ahead of time????

oh noes! after reading all the glowing reviews for toto on this forum as well as on terry love's site, i purchased & had installed one recently (yet to be used) - now i learn the back story. i got an eco drake elongated. same problem with that?

jeanteach - I think it has to do with the size of the water surface area. I've been reading all kinds of toilet specs for the past few days and this is the diameter of the water in the toilet. We have the above described problem a bit with our old toilet. I measured the diameter of the water surface area of our current toilet and figured I'd want more than I currently have - which is about 5 x 7.

We have a Whitney, Promenade and Dartmouth in our house. I prefer the Whitney and Dartmouth for their larger water surface.

I think the Toto toilets are great; may be you could check the specs on a different model and find one that may work better.

We recently had the Toto Promenade installed, with sangloss finish. I don't know if it's the sangloss, but we can clean it with just a second flush if needed -- usually. And, the flush/refill is quick, so you don't have to wait around several minutes waiting to flush again.

I think besides water surface, there is something about the shape of the bowl. Our old toilet (a Kohler, but knowing our POs, probably the cheapest one they make!) was also elongated, and appeared to have good water surface, but the water was all to the back. "Stuff" would land on the flat, dry front of the bowl. So I don't know exactly what is different, but maybe the Promenade has deeper water....

Glad to see this thread, though, for when we replace our master bath toilet. This is the kind of info you just can't get from specs!

I have 3 Toto Ultramax toilets without Sanagloss, and they need to be cleaned rarely. Maybe we just have better "aim"! Yes, the water spot is somewhat smaller than the old water wasters, but that is true of many, if not most, of the water efficient toilets.

I've never had one of these Totos get clogged, which is the most important thing to me.

i went with consumer reports & the separate flush test results (from May?) and got an American Standard Champion 4. Very clean, quick, quiet - love it. One gripe: it seems that the tank leans forward a bit on the bowl & doesn't stay tight. Not sure if it is a defect or not; still working with contractor on that; shouldn't be a huge deal...but thought you'd want the full story.

My spouse works for a high-end plumbing showroom. For the money, the Gerber "Avalanche" is a wonderful deal. Similar to the Toto but, IMHO, superior.....although we DID install the Toto Washlet on it. Heaven, I'm in heaven......oh well, you get the idea.

We put a Kohler Memoirs ADA height in our master. I'm really happy with this toilet. We've never had a clog and it stays very clean. I clean it just once every two weeks and out of laziness, I'm actually tempted to go even longer than that between cleanings because the inside always looks very clean, even after two weeks of no cleaning. I will be getting another Kohler for sure when I remodel my other bath.

i'm going to be purchasing a Drake G-Max and a Promenade G-Max, i was going to get the round bowls. should i be rethinking these purchases? i do NOT want to clean the toilets every day. heard mixed reviews regarding sanagloss. any more info would be appreciated.

i'm going to be purchasing a Drake G-Max and a Promenade G-Max, i was going to get the round bowls- should i be rethinking this purchase- i do NOT want to clean the toilets every day. heard mixed reviews regarding sanagloss. any more info would be appreciated.

Sanagloss is supposed to make cleaning less frequent, but I was not willing to spend an extra $50. If you're a clean freak, you might want to get it, but I haven't had a problem. Our Toto toilets get a 5 second swirl with a brush every week or two and nobody has reported me to the Health Department yet.

I just installed 2 Gerber Avalanche toilets in a remodel we are doing at the suggestion of the woman at the plumbing store. I needed 2 matching toilets one 10 inch rough and one 12 inch rough and the only other matching ones I could get were the AS Cadets and I did not like the look of them. At first I hated the look of the Avalanche, but it is growing on me and my husband loves them. They do have a great flush.

My ROUND (non ADA) Ultramax doesn't need to be cleaned near as often as the ELONGATED (ADA) Ultramax. There does seem to be less water surface in the elongated version.
Monica

I've heard that many of the elongated bowl toilets have some issues with the low-flow flushes now mandatory. I don't think it's just Toto.

We have the round-bowl Toto Ultramax and have no issues with it needing more cleaning than our Kohler 1.6 toilet in the other bathroom.

We have three toilets, a Toto (Carrolton), Kohler Memoirs and Kohler Cimarron. The Cimmarron is the best of the three, IMO.

I'm debating between the Kohler Cimmarron and Kohler Santa Rosa. I don't like the comfort height on the Cimmarron because I'm very short but so far I can't get any feed back on the Santa Rosa.

Anyone?

We replaced a power flush toilet in our powder room (only because of its loud noise as it never clogged) with AS Cadet 3 two years ago. I really like the Cadet 3, it doesn't clog, flushes good and nothing untoward sticks to it. Plus, it's a good price.

We got the elongated Champion 4 and love it. Never clogs and requires cleaning only once a week or so. One problem: there's a leak from the tank into the toilet so that it frequently runs for a moment to "top off" the tank when the level drops. Could be because DH put one of those self-cleaning tablets in the tank, which may have damaged the ring that seals the flapper. (Hope I described that correctly.) I got a new ring and am waiting for DH to install it. May give up and do it myself. ;-)

I read this thread about Totos which required daily cleaning because of their structural problems, and I thought to myself that in the interest of water conservation alone I needed to let all know of the perfect solution!
Here it is - "lay a ply, or two, of toilet tissue on the target area on the sides of the bowl before doing your job, and flush away afterwards, in a single flush!! No need for multiple flushes and daily cleanings (unless time and money were of no consequence.)"

I've been obsessing over toilets for a while now and I'm leaning toward the AS Cadet 3 - good to hear someone is happy with it. I was temporarily taken with some nicer looking toilets and had to remind myself that my number one priority is that it flushes completely without a plunger every time - something my current toilet lacks.

Toto Acquaia iV are European/Asian style gravity toilets , Toto Drake and Drake ii are American style syphon toilets. Gravity toilets have low water level and hence daily cleaning . Gravity toilets will never clog. People in India have never seen a plunger , but, they use the water jet bidet to clean the streak every time .