Wolf 36' Dual Fuel DF366 pricing - tips needed
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Comments (90)I thought I was alone in this experience. I had a jenn-air downdraft for 30 years with no functional trouble whatsoever. If only they had made the downdraft cavity of stainless steel so it could have been cleaned more easily, I would have bought another one. But I had my eye on the Wolf for so long... The first oven cavity had significant crazing, and Wolf eventually replaced the cavity. Then, it happened again and they replaced the stove. That was a couple of years ago. I don’t use the oven cleaning function that often; generally it says fairly clean with a good wipe down. But a few days ago, I ran the self clean, and danged if it isn’t happening again. This time I searched and found the class action suit. It is beyond unacceptable to spend that amount of money and have this extent of structural problems....See MoreWolf DF366 vs. KitchenAid KDRU767VSS (36-inch dual-fuel ranges)
Comments (2)I searched on aj madison on the kitchenaid and it was $5019 and i found i got better prices with my local appliance dealer for my appliances. You might shop around more on the kitchenaid. The wolf you will have a harder time shopping it around as it is set pricing. On splattering we use an old fashioned splatter guard and that works great to reduce cleanup. You pay extra for wolf for the reputation, cache, and service. It might be worth it on resale. On aj madison websiteyou can do a comparison of the specs on each and see the differences....See MoreWolf 36' All Gas or Dual Fuel?
Comments (12)Thanks to everyone for their thoughts. Based on your responses above, and the convection baking thread, it sounds like I should be able bake multiple sheets at the same time with convection, regardless of whether DF or AG, so that of course leans me toward the AG. Then I read Beth4's post and I go back to DF thinking I do use my range 1-2x day, nearly every day. Weissman- thanks for the correction re. Subzero owning Wolf. Don't know where my husband got that from. The kitchen is wired for electric (we just bought a 1950's ranch style fixer upper that hasn't been touched since the 50's) so it has an electric stove top bow but not sure if it's up to 240v. Just asked my husband and he wasn't sure but thought it's 120v for US and 240v for Europe so he's now calling our contractor to ask. AK Chicago- So happy you're happy w/ your AG. I forgot to ask in my OP... when your oven has preheated, does it beep to let you know or does the light just go off? Interesting point on the self-clean. Initially, I'd think that to not have this feature is a negative but reading your post makes me think otherwise. Plus, the AG range in our rental has a self-clean feature and I haven't used it in the 3 plus yrs we've been here. As I look back on my notes from the showroom visit, one thing she did say was that the "Wolf chef" apparently told them that to replicate the actual self-clean feature, all you have to do is turn on the oven to the highest heat for 3 hours and then let it cool for 1 hour b/c apparently that's how a self-clean feature works. Not sure if this is true but doesn't matter anyway since I'll just go the old fashioned Easy off route anyway. We made an appointment and visited an official Wolf showroom (in Burlingame, CA). The woman we met with said she's usually "on the field" but was working in the showroom since she's been there the longest- or something like this. She definitely works for Wolf but she wasn't very impressive to say the least. I felt like her "knowledge" consisted of memorized facts vs. based on a true understanding of the products, because she struggled when I probed. That was a bummer because I certainly was expecting a lot more out of that visit. The folks on this forum seem to understand the products a lot better. Here are some of the tid bits from my notes: - AG goes up to 16k BTU and down to 500 simmer; DF 15k Btu and 750 simmer - AG has 1 convection fan (vs. 2 convection fans for DF), gas infrared boiler, 30k btu under, cool down fan. - AG holds about 1.5 cups spillage; DF she thought would hold more - DF has a melt burner, back left - up to 9200, down to 300 (don't value this) - DF has a halogen light (this seemed much brighter than the AG I have to say) - DF has a full exension bottom rack that can be extended out onto the door (I think this would be very useful for basting, checking if cake is done, etc.) - She thought preheat time was similar for both (doesn't really matter to me but I hope the AG beeps when preheated?!) As I mentioned to Weissman above, kitchen is def. wired for electric but checking on whether kitchen is wired for 240v. Or, should we assume that any kitchen that has electric is wired for 240v? That could make the decision because if we end up having to pay more for electrical and my incremental $2400 for DF becomes higher, I'm not sure it's worth it. Beth4- thank you for your post. I'm sure I will love it if I get it, I just have to decide if the extra $2400 is worth it. What makes me at times lean toward the DF is I can't imagine regretting it, but worry with the AG that I might regret not getting the electric oven. Though, based on Weissman and AK Chicago's posts, maybe I'll be more than happy with the AG once I use convection bake. Shannon- Loved reading your post. Was helpful for me to read your decision making thoughts. As for looks, we actually prefer the look and the knobs of the AG as those are the original knobs and, to your point, will likely remain the same in the years to come. The DF looks great too of course but the knobs, other than the color, and the sealed burners look the same as many other residential ranges. Not a bad thing but we just like the original - AG look....See MoreBluestar Platinum 48 range or Wolf Dual Fuel 48 Range? Help!
Comments (49)We owned a 48” Thermidor for 14 years and regretted it for 12 of those years. We put at least $2,000 into replacement parts over that time. And yes the oven fans were very loud and near the end they would stop working and then my oven would stop working. I spent over two years researching ranges and reading hundreds of reviews. Finally we decided on the 48” RNB. We considered the Platinum but I had the same concerns as M concerning the heat coming from the back of the oven only and the constant fan blowing. Convection isn’t always the best for baked goods, bread, cakes, cookies etc. After reading some reviews on the pros and cons, I decided to go with the RNB. I have no regrets. The ovens are so quiet that I had to check to see if I turned them on. I was so used to hearing a loud fan that at first I thought something was wrong. Took a little getting used to the quiet. I love these ovens! My Christmas cookies all came out perfect; nicely browned outside and moist on the inside. Cheesecake, brownies, bread, and pizza have all baked beautifully. Meats and casseroles bake evenly and on time. My old Thermador has not baked evenly in a very long time and often stopped in the middle of baking. The RNB small oven does a wonderful job. Both ovens heat up quickly. My old small oven was useless. It took nearly an hour to heat up and twice as long to bake. I baked two 9 x 13 dishes at once in my small RNB on Christmas day and they were both finished at the same time. I could never do that in my Thermador. The ovens clean up easily, if you just take a few minutes to wipe up after a spill. I did want the higher burners of the Platinum but the oven made the difference. Also I did not need to move the griddle around. I would have like a grill to but we grill outside whenever we want so that isn’t an issue. The rolled steel griddle is like a restaurant and so much nicer than I expected. You can turn it on and leave it while you prep with no concerns. I went to a restaurant store and purchased a cleaning pad like they use in restaurants. Cleanup is easy. Something else I love is the removable steel trays underneath the burners and griddle. I just stick them in the dishwasher every couple of weeks and the look like new! I would never go back to a Thermador. I hope this helps....See Morehydrangea_2008
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