Soapstone shower base, cracked, now what
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Comments (10)Yes, tile being what it is, there are industry standards in place for preparing a good solid, sound substrate and how much deflection is acceptable in tiling installations in order to avoid situations like yours. Essentially, the floor should not be moving or the tile and/or grout will crack, further, allowing water to escape. Once the flooring person starts to lay that floor, he has taken ownership that it is a good foundation. Now, whether anything else ever enters into it or there could be unforeseen conditions no one could know, someone else might be able to answer. Do you know anything about the details of the install? Did you watch at all? Does the contract state any details or specs for how the job will be done. Say anything about "to be installed per industry standards, ANSI ASC ... "?...See MoreSoapstone too expensive...now what? Corian?
Comments (48)I too am looking for new countertops and I like the new Corian designs; I think some of them are beautiful. And I like solid surface material for many other reasons. All countertops, including "natural" stone countertops, go through some kind of treatment and fabrication process as others have noted here. And the quarrying process is hardly natural. We all know that quartz countertops are marketed as containing 93% quartz, but I've heard that this percentage is by weight, not volume. (Quartz weighs more than resin). However, when most people ask, HOW MUCH quartz (or whatever material) does that product contain? they are usually asking a question about VOLUME, QUANTITY or AMOUNT, not weight. Solid surface material, depending on the design, can contain approximately the same quantity/amount of natural material (often bauxite ore) as quartz countertops. Sometimes I get tired of people calling solid surface "plastic" when quartz and other materials can be just as "plastic." Yes, granite, marble, and other natural stones don't contain plastic but is the quarried, fabricated product purely natural or purely green? And, let's not forget that the more natural stone there is, the more likely the product is to contain radon (a natural by-product) - yes, it's true that most stone countertops are within VERY safe limits, some even approaching zero. But, although this issue is no longer in the forefront, the radon didn't disappear from these products. The amount depends on many factors including the geological region the product came from. But this alone wouldn't keep me from installing granite countertops if I liked them because I think most are safe. For my taste, most granite designs look too busy indoors, but I'm sure they are gorgeous in nature where they are unpolished and surrounded by dirt/the earth. But, ultimately, no countertop material is "pure" or "purely green." I think there are trade-offs with each type of material as far as its "greeness," its design features, and its functionality go. So, go with what you like! I hope you enjoy your new countertop whatever you choose! Sorry for the long post....See MoreSoapstone Experts- cracking around cooktop, normal?
Comments (9)Thanks so much for your responses! Yes, the cutouts were all done by the stone company. Also, Kitchenaid does NOT recommend supports under their cook tops. We spoke with someone from the company specifically to have that information in case they tried to blame that. I actually helped install the hood, with the homeowner. At no time did we stand on or apply full weight on the counter top or it's edge. I also did the tile work, and took extreme care to not lean on the edges, for fear of possible scratching of the stone (it's much softer than my own soapstone). We installed the hood several months ago also, and this kitchen has just now showed the cracks within this past month. The 36 inch cabinet from Ikea does not appear to be level on it's front edge and appears to have dropped a bit in it's center. Not sure if the two drawers in this cabinet have been overloaded, although the drawers function just fine. The person representing the Ikea installer, thinks this cabinet's front is pretty normal, and she's never seen stone do this before 'in similar installations.' The soapstone installer never checked for level since 'that is only done at templating' and they 'don't check for level again after that,' according to the rep from the stone company. The initial rep for the stone install company actually accused the homeowner of jumping on the counter since 'that is the only way this could have happened.' At no time has it been suggested by either company's reps to reinforce this 3 cm stone. When we suggested it, they said, 'well, we could' once it's epoxied. But, they really weren't sure since they've 'never seen this problem before.' Btw, all the above quotes were actual things heard while the reps were trying to figure out what to do. I can't believe this has never happened anywhere! Anyone else out there with suggestions or thoughts? And thanks again so very much....See MoreShower Grout Cracking in Newly Installed Shower
Comments (16)Reading here at GardenWeb, I know that tile and grout are not waterproof. Your guy is just not informed. Yes, we have bathrooms done "the old way" and sometimes the tile above the bathtub did stay for many years. But how many have rotten walls and floors behind them? Do yourself a favor and read up on how a shower should be built before you hire the next person, and talk about their methods and products before you hire. People are still out there, putting up materials worth thousands of dollars, not knowing what they are doing. After the leaks ruin other rooms in the house, all has to be torn out and redone. It happens all the time. Here is a current thread: http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/4654503/wall-underlayment-for-shower-best-practice?n=4...See MoreSFH-CA
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