"Our local store rec'd the Electrolux Q50 series. Though reviewed.com loves this machine I'm having a difficult time finding owner feedback. I was told this was Italian time-tested technology, just now brought to the US. And the orbit clean has just come out of patent, but is also not "new". Any leads on further information?" The Frigidaire FPID/FGID and Electrolux EI24ID/EW24ID (including the 50QS) are brand new and seem to be a redesign from the ground up. Electrolux did not have a great reputation for dishwashers in the past; owners complained of poor washability and reliability. However, it's very possible this new line is great and exactly what they needed. You certainly won't find any user reviews at this point, though. If you buy one, let us know what you think! The only real "proven" dishwashers on the market right now are Maytag and the Euro manufacturers Bosch, Miele, and Asko. Although Maytag is a Whirlpool brand, they still use the previous generation Point Voyager tall tub wash system that works well. Whirlpool has transitioned the rest of their brands including KA to the "Global Wash System" which supposedly is quieter and uses less water but is unproven. GE and Electrolux/Frigidaire just introduced complete redesigns, presumably because their previous offerings weren't so great. Those are also unproven.

We just bought the whirlpool duet washer to replace a 10-yr old Kenmore front loader with bad bearings (got my money's worth on that one-LOL!) We chose it because it is one of very few washers that would fit under the laundry room counter; it's 36" tall. Very happy with it so far. We are a family of three and, even though we seem to generate a lot of laundry, I often have trouble filling the washer. There is a small load option, so it's not a big issue. The old kenmore was smaller, and I would have preferred to go a tad smaller than the 3.5 cu. ft. whirlpool, but we live in a small town in a rural area and wanted to ensure that local appliance guys could service our washer if necessary. If I were buying a washer for just me, I would get the smaller capacity. 3.5 cu. ft. is BIG! OK, it's handy if you have a pile of towels, but that's it. Good luck.

Or another alternative if you are dead set on installing a gas rangetop is a plug in portable induction unit. This would allow you to pull it out when making pasta or hosting parties. These won't have the performance of a built in unit, but an option. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Portable+induction+ If I was buying one, I would splurge on a hospitality grade one. MIL has the 48 inch Wolf Rangetop with integrated griddle that runs on propane. I honestly prefer the cooking performance of my Bluestar I have the Electrolux Wave Touch ovens. Do I use half the buttons, no, but it's an amazing oven and I'm really happy with it fwiw. But, if you like the other Kitchen Aid appliances you may be able to purchase a suite and receive a discount. So, the KA oven may be better for you. These guys aren't joking on venting. I was shocked when remodeling to learn how much vents cost. There is a laundry forum, you may get more feedback on the whirlpool machines there. HTH

I had a KA that I liked a lot new, but it got louder in the relatively short time we had it (a year?). Had another older one here when we moved in -- hated it. Replaced with Thermador (Bosch) when we reno'd the kitchen (it had been locked in place by a tile counter). We also added a 2nd DW, so I've had two of them and been very happy with them. I looked at Miele but liked the racking in Thermador and Bosch better for our dishes and I could get two of them for the cost of one Miele. I recently replaced one of the units (9 yrs old?) with a Bosch Benchmark. I'd been waiting for an excuse to replace that one -- we think something got sucked into the pump a long time ago, it didn't drain, but the repairman fiddled with it and got it to drain (warranty call) and it had been running very loudly ever since. I was told it was a user issue and they wouldn't replace the pump and I didn't push it. I just decided I would replace it sooner. And try one with the new third rack. I love how quiet the DW is and I love how well it cleans. Most of the time, it dries as well as the old one which is good or better than any other I've ever owned, but doesn't melt plastics, even on the bottom rack. What I'm still adjusting to is the changes in the racking -- the third rack and the difference in the tines. That happens with every new DW -- they just keep changing the layout of the racks. Sometimes it seems great and mostly I like it, but I still reserve the right to get frustrated when I have to think harder and move stuff around more than I care to. Not sure of the details of the model you are considering, but Bosch offers at least three different baskets plus the third rack. If you are used to carrying the basket with you to unload, you might care more about which basket you get more than someone who uses the third rack for flatware. We are using one half of the silverware basket most of the time for flatware and the third rack for utensils, prep bowls and smaller measuring cups. I probably need to try using only the third rack and see how that impacts loading the lower tack, but I haven't yet. I can't give you any reason not to buy the Bosch -- but do be prepared to be friestrated form time to time while you figure out the differences in how you need to use whatveer you chose.