So I got the Miele Diamante Plus G2143SC installed yesterday. I ran it through two Rinse & Hold cycles first and then did a Pot Scrubber with detergent added so that the inside was clean of any manufacturing residue. I loaded it up with lunch and dinner dishes and pans that evening and ran it on the Normal program (the Turbo mode was off). I stayed near the kitchen the entire time and it sounded like it filled with water, pre-washed, drained, filled, pre-washed again (why?), drained, filled, washed (heard detergent door open), drained, filled, rinsed, drained, dried. Also, during the end rinse (which took about 30 minutes total), the last 15 minutes it sounded louder, like it was using higher water pressure. The entire time using the Normal cycle from start to end when it drained the final rinse water was 2 hours! The original GE Profile I had 3 years ago took about an hour using Normal, and the Electrolux from 2 years ago was about 1.5 hours. Tonight I going to use Normal again, but also with the Turbo mode turned on and see if there is any difference. Whenever it starts to fill with water, there is a slight is slight gurgling sound, but it only last for about 5 seconds and then fills pretty quite. During the pre-wash, wash, and rinse, it was very quite while running (more so than the GE and Electrolux I owned). I did hear (at the local Miele showroom) a Optima in use a few weeks ago (it has Q3 noise level) and I think it was a tad bit quieter than this Diamante (Q2 noise level) but not by much. When we checked it this morning, everything was perfectly clean (dishes, posts, pans, plastic cups (we don't use real glass glasses too often), and silverware. The plastic cups were dry except on a few that concave on the top where there was some water puddle. There was also a plastic storage container that was used to store left-overs. It was clean, but also has some water on the top part. Everything else was dry and spotless. So with only 1 use down, we're relatively happy with our purchase, and baring any problems down the road, I'd consider buying Miele again. A few other nice things about the way it's made, unlike most other dishwashers (including the GE and Electrolux we had), is that the exterior has it's own sealed enclosure on the sides and top, where most other brands you can see the fiber-insulation on the sides and top. This unit was side mounted (due to granite counters). The way it works is there's two screws on each side top and bottom, right before the water-seal. But instead of it drilling into the sides of the cabinet, they instead push a piece of metal onto the side of the cabinet that hold the dishwasher in place. This is nice, as it eliminates any drilling into the wood, but still holds it very firmly.

Friends-- I am *this close* to getting a 30 inch gas Bertazzoni for my kitchen. Any advice, gripes, quirks, stories about how much you love it, etc. would be very welcome. Also, if you were happy or not with your retailer. I'd be buying on the internet (which doesn't scare me for books; does scare me for 400 pound ranges). Thanks!

I have a Miele Futura Classic. It replaced a higher end KitchenAid about 9 months ago. The KitchenAid contoller board was fried in a power drop. Haven't had that problem with the Miele. Mine is the simplest model with the cutlery tray. I wish I had gotten the Futura with the crystal cycle, but it wasn't in the budget. Classic works very well for 95% of the dishes. The turbo button on the normal cycle for smaller loads cuts the cycle time by about 60 minutes to 90 minutes. That includes the condensation dry. Be aware that neither the Bosch nor the Miele has the heated drying cycle typical in an American model. The model you're considering has some moveable tines on the adjustable racks that I found intriguing, but didn't have the hidden controls I need for the little people in the house. I appreciated the fact that my Miele salesman asked what kind of water I had in the house. If you have hard water, you might want to consider the on-board water softener option. We have a high iron content in our water so the stainless steel tub eliminates the red ring we get when tubs aren't scrubbed regularly. The sanitize cycle gives us the 155 degree rinse I wanted to sterilize everything. I don't put the pots in the dishwasher like many do, but you definitely can. I do put the filters from my range top vent hood in the dishwasher and it does a beautiful job de-greasing them. Good luck with your choice.

Well the Miele is working again :) Thank goodness my hubby is handy. When he gets some extra time he will take the old pump apart and see what went wrong ( it had to be a seal). Giving some thought to why would the seal go so soon, I am considering using powder detergent, instead of the Finish Powerball tabs. I did notice the last time I picked them up from Costco, the tabs are more concentrated now. The box claims 8x more concentrated. I am wondering if this could possibly be an issue. Since I have whole house softener, I thought I would programme the rinse agent to 2, instead of the default to 3. I will start there, since I can't remember the days before tab detergents, anymore. I think I will give Miele support a call tomorrow. I have read and re-read how to use the built-in softener, but I am a tad unsure how it really works with a whole house softener. I have my machine hooked-up to soft cold water. I live in an area with terribly hard water. 60 plus grains. I truly doubt I should programme the machine for 60 grains because of the whole house softener. As anyone who has a whole house softener, there can be days when the water is less soft (just before regeneration). I have never had any glass nor crystal etch in my machine with either powder nor tabs. I am pleased the machine is once again working. I just now have to play with detergent and rinse agent to find a happy medium of sparkling without eating my machine seals.