Saying goodbye to Miele :l Miele Optima Dishwasher leaking
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Comments (38)Kaseki - my post did get truncated it was complete when I submitted it on Gardenweb. To briefly finish the story, the entire problem was the heater pressure switch - it caused the F14 error as well as a significant leak. I also replaced the heater relay (indicated by the F24 code) but I took the 'bad' one apart and it appears fine, so I think the second code was also somehow caused by the wet heater pressure switch. The black diaphragm inside the heater pressure switch was clearly deteriorated with little granules of rubber coming off. Too bad Miele doesn't make just the diaphragm a serviceable part - or better yet use a better elastomer. The other piece of info that got cut off - the service guy who came out and told me I needed a new pump that would cost $1100 - when I checked with Miele their price on the pump was $550! I posted here because i did a lot of searching and never saw anyone documenting significant leaks due to a failed heater pressure switch and the service guy acted like leak == failed pump, so trying to give back to all the helpful stuff I've looked up over the years. Also, for the record, we still like our Miele dishwasher. Its built like a tank and actually quite serviceable. We're building a new house and we will probably buy another Miele dishwasher....See MoreMiele Dishwasher with Water Softener opinions?
Comments (10)Thanks for the replies. To answer questions about why the water is so hard: The DistrictÂs extensive water system serves a 65 square mile area, utilizing nearly 382 miles of pipe to distribute carefully blended drinking water to our valued customers. Your water consists of groundwater from ten wells which draw from the alluvial aquifer tributary to the South Platte River, eight deep wells which draw from the Arapahoe formation, and treated surface water from Denver Water. Seven of the DistrictÂs shallow wells are first pumped to the Klein Water Treatment Facility for treatment, then mixed with Denver Water before delivery to storage reservoirs. The Denver water portion comes entirely from surface sources over a watershed covering 3,100 square miles on both sides of the Continental Divide. The sources include the South Platte River and its tributaries, the streams that feed Dillon Reservoir and the creeks and canals above the Fraser River. We live northeast of Denver, directly north of what was once the mass storage of our nation's chemical weapons supply, the Rocky Mountain Arsenal. They've been cleaning it up and turning it into a nature preserve. The water district is apparently something developed by the army to avoid all this, and then turned over to the municipality. Our home is all flowguard gold pipes, the local pluming supply houses I've spoken with say it can deal with the hard water better than L copper....See MoreBosch / Kitchenaid to Replace My Miele Dishwasher ?
Comments (57)"Sometimes, I wonder what we really *get* out of having designer appliances and keeping up with the Jones's." I really do think that your "Average, run of the mill appliances" are more reliable than the "fancy stuff" we buy and it's certainly less expensive and easier to get parts and service for them.(I base this on comparing "everyday appliances" I've bought for my rentals~~~and I just never get complaints about the appliances from my tenants). Example~~~~One rental has a "run of the mill" gas range. It's about 10 years old or so now. It uses spark ignitors to light the burners, I've never had to replace one and I've had cleaning people (that are most likely NOT careful of the ignitors) when cleaning the range in the condo, yet I've never had to replace an ignitor.~~~Now compare this to the posts we see of ignitor problems with the fancy stuff, (Blue Star, Capital~~~etc) We see the ignitors, ignitor modules fail on those or pinched or disconnected wires (sometimes when brand new)!!!!. When one thinks of how many more Whirlpools are sold, and even Electroluxes than the really "Esoteric Stuff", (Miele, Gaggenau, Wolf/SZ) and then compare the number of complaints~~~~~well it's like my appliance guy said, They sell so many of the "more common stuff" that even thou the complaints "may seem to be equal to the esoteric stuff", all in all the "Common stuff", is pretty dern reliable. (I had mentioned to him that "Maytag" seemed to have a lotta complaints about their clothes washers a few years back, & that was his response to me). My Maytag washer & dryer have been trouble free for 5 years or so, except I had to have the big door seal "bellows" replaced in the washer. Anyway, I did not buy my Miele Optima to "Keep up with the Jones", I bought it because of that top cutlery rack. I'm kind of a rebel here, gray is "all the rage here now", and I've expressed my opinion on that and NOT in the most "Politically correct way"~~~~~~now there's a good example of following the Jones's (even thou they are color blind)!!! Anyway, good luck with your new Miele, YOU DEFINITELY "Stepped out of the Jones neighborhood and into the Vanderbilt's abode", with that purchase, (LOL)!!! I hope it serves you well for a long time, and I hope my Optima does not come down with the same disease yours got!!!! Gary...See MoreBefore using Miele dishwasher for the first time (cross-posted)
Comments (10)@fauguy - I live in NE Fort Lauderdale, zip code 33308. After testing the water from my kitchen tap with a Sofchek water hardness test strip I picked up at the shop where I purchased my Miele DW supplies (a vacuum shop at Commercial & 18th Ave.), I set my DW settings to 15 gpg. If I end up having a Miele tech out here at any point, I will ask them to recheck the water hardness. Our DW allows me to set the water hardness at the precise setting, as opposed to setting based on ranges. Unfortunately, I don't have much confidence in information obtained from my local water utility department; that's why I tested the water hardness myself. BTW, I spent time on the phone today with one of the founders of NY Minute, the company I booked based on your excellent recommendation. In my case, the installers left much to be desired. The lead installer spoke only broken English and communicating with him was a challenge. I put down layers of beach towels on the floor surrounding my dishwasher and the kitchen sink, yet the lead installer repeatedly ignored my requests to set his wrench, drill, etc. on the towels, and I repeatedly heard him dropping his tools onto the floor. As a result, I found multiple areas of damage (divets) in the marble flooring when they finished. Additionally, I just discovered that it appears I am missing two pieces of my dishwasher installation. Earlier today when I phoned Miele tech support to ask about how to tell when a cycle was complete, I learned that in addition to the audible setting (which had been disabled when our DW was installed) there should be a "prism" mounted to the underside of the granite counter, just above the Miele control panel on the DW, that serves to reflect the red indicator light that illuminates and flashes when a cycle has completed. According to the Miele tech, this prism is shipped in the box with the DW and comes with a corresponding stainless steel frame. Both pieces are to be attached by the installer. NY Minute's install team did not install, discuss, or leave me any such parts. Although my keyword search of the PDF manual does not indicate any matches for "prism," I discussed this with NYM today and also have a call in to the Miele Territory Manager who handles Miele issues for the dealer from whom we purchased our DW (FL Builder Appliances)....See Morerichard_mariu
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