Contractor Satement Regarding HardiePlank Siding
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Does anyone have Hardi Plank siding?
Comments (55)I will be putting Hardi plank siding up in less than a month. I live in the middle of a woods. I want to blend two different shades of paint. Gray primer(dry) than (light green first...(dry) than a gray over it,(dry) and possible another charco gray lightly to give depth to the cedar mill. Pain staking but I got time and I want my house to blend with the woods surroundings. Could someone please guide me on how to do it right. Thanks!...See MorePre-painted ColorPlus Hardie Siding?? HELP!
Comments (27)Read through the string of emails and found them very interesting...some facts and some experiences; I own a factory finish company (www.aciprefinish.com) I also field painted for 20 years prior to factory finishing. James Hardie sure did put fiber cement on the 'map' and they really helped my business by promoting factory finished siding (They call Color plus); and the fact is there is no way when I painted in the field I could equal or even come close to the quality, uniformity and 'total' board paint coverage a factory can provide. I certainly would not get caught up on the drying process; ACI has done both and a 'baked' on finish is simply for the manufacture to dry quicker, pack quicker and sell you quicker...the saying '... I don't get paid to watch paint dry' is very true. Air dry is the best, just takes longer; air dry allows the paint to penetrate the surface much better providing a deeper first coat base. Color plus is also sprayed on...ok but not the best; flood coat brushes the coating into the pores and specific to our process we have 6 brushes moving and pushing paint into the siding pores; in addition we 'wrap' around the back side edge of the board this further insures back side pressure from your home does not 'push' or 'pop' the coating, just more quality at no extra charge that most will never see or know about. Color should never be an issue though unfortunately a National company can not have every color in stock... locals like ACI can...over 1001 colors. If you are looking for fiber cement there are 4 brands to choose from; again Hardie is very well marketed though we found quality improvements in other brands, lower costs and better warranties. Really splitting hairs if 'we' beat on any one brand...they all have issues and benefits; I recommend looking closely at the texture grain, choose one and then do your research on warranty, price etc. Lastly, someone mentioned installers liking or not liking the installation process of factory finished - red flag if they don't like; our coatings are hard, our touch up comes from the exact batch we painted all your siding with...move on to the next contractor; at the end of day your getting the best coating process when factory finished. This should cost you less and your the one that will be living in your home and YOU should enjoy a long term coating with out having any maintenance concerns for 25 years (with ACI)less with the nationals. Good luck...believe in the process! Tim C President. Here is a link that might be useful: Architectural Coatings Inc....See MoreFiber cement siding from build direct
Comments (33)Also looking to order fiber cement siding planks. Seems like everyone goes with either CertainTeed or Hardie planks. Is Cerber a reputable brand (it seems they're manufactured by Certainteed per quote above: "Cerber currently uses Certainteed Fibre Cement board for its rustic series. Previously we had used Maxitile, but we had feedback from customers indicating less brand awareness and confidence in Maxitile and a preference for Certainteed.") My GC is letting us order as much of the material as we want ourselves vs. him ordering for us to price compare (he doesn't have time to do all that quoting back and forth), but I've not bought anything online directly and not from Build Direct. I've only made purchases from local distributors, HD/Lowe's and other local building suppliers. Is it safe to buy from Build Direct? I'm in northern CA and to cover 3000 sq ft (that's how large the house is, not the needed siding) one-story home, I've calculated that it'll take about 2340 sq ft + 10% Thank you in advance for any advice!...See MoreHardi Plank worth considering?
Comments (5)I have used Abatron for years; it's great! I use the Liquid Wood epoxy, but not the white wood filler (Woodepox, IIRC), which is expensive, and feather weight, which tells me there is not much substance to it. Instead, I use sawdust and mix in enough of the Liquid Wood epoxy to form a thick paste, and apply it like putty. When it hardens, it can be sanded, sawed and will take screws and hold paint, and looks very much like the wood it replaced. For extra fine work like interior trim, I use sanding dust instead of sawdust; often it is impossible to tell where the repair was made. The local millworks were glad to give me all the sawdust I wanted for the trouble of sweeping it up since it saved them having to clean it up. For sanding dust, I have used what I was able to collect from my orbital sander. Some of the exterior repairs I made with the epoxy/sawdust combination have been exposed to the elements for about 5 years now, and so far I see no signs of peeling paint, or cracks developing between the original wood and the epoxy/sawdust filler. I used another brand of epoxy about 20 years ago to repair a rotted window sill and it likewise shows no signs of deterioration. Warning: do not allow Liquid Wood to contact your skin. The first couple of years I used it, I was careless about using protective gloves, got it all over my hands, and just washed it off afterwards. Then one spring I got a severe case of poison ivy rash, and ever since, contact with Liquid Wood produces a rash similar to that of poison ivy. I read some articles about sensitivity to epoxy, which indicated that prolonged or frequent exposure will generate sensitivity resulting in an allergic reaction. I suspect the poison ivy triggered the reaction, but if I had carefully followed the recommended precautions I probably wouldn't be sensitive to it. Even with protective gloves I still sometimes get a reaction resulting in a severe rash all over my fingers. Regarding the Hardi Plank, if the original vertical trim is still in good shape I would recommend keeping it and just replacing the horizontal siding with the Hardi Plank. The siding is warranted for 50 years, but the trim boards are warranted only for something like 10 years. I had the addition to another building re-sided with Hardi several years ago. The vertical trim is very fragile and brittle, and has little strength. I saved some left over and stored it in a damp crawl space, and it disintegrates with moisture. I was able to attach a storm door to the vertical trim by drilling 1/4" holes, filling them with epoxy, and installing the screws in the epoxy (pre-drilling the screw holes). The Hardi trim would not hold screws. Another warning: do not use a regular high speed steel drill bit to bore holes into Hardi Plank. It will quickly wear off the edge of the drill bit and ruin it, unless you are skilful and patient enough to properly re-sharpen drill bits....See Moremightyanvil
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