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Need layout help with Master Bath/Main Bath redo

16 years ago

Ok,

Winding down kitchen renos, ready to start on Bathrooms.

We are redoing all three bathrooms. The first two that I need help with are the Master and Main, which back on to each other. I have a pic of the layout.

We are now empty nesters with the whole upstairs to ourselves. We'd like to make the Master shower bigger and I would love an airjet tub in the main (which would be for me, but I figure for resale, there should be a tub in the main bathroom. I was thinking I could move the common wall (79" long) into the main and gain about 9" in the Master- the present shower is already 9" deeper than the rest of the bathroom. Then I could move the tub 90 degrees towards the right (or left I guess, don't know if it makes a difference to plumbing which needs to be moved)so that it would be parallel to the common wall and then I could get a bigger/longer tub than I have presently.

I could move toilet to where tub used to be, building half or full walls as needed.

Basically, we're pretty open to any changes, the two partial walls in Main can go, windows can go, or be moved or changed. (They are a few months old, but DH figures it would be cheaper to replace with smaller windows if necessary than move them). We are DIY, so costs are in materials, not in labour.

Open to all and any ideas.

TIA, Rae

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cat_mom
16 years ago
raehelen--We just did our kitchen and we have 3 baths to do now as well, and are also looking to steal space from the main bath to add to our miniscule master--cue the Twilight Zone music!

DH would know better than I how many sq. ft. we presently have, and how many we'd be looking to "steal". Maybe we can bounce ideas off each other along the way! I'll try to get DH to check out this thread tonight if he's not too busy studying.
kgwlisa
16 years ago
How open to the idea of moving plumbing are you?

The first thing that occurs to me is that it would be a far more efficient layout if you shifted that wall between the two bathrooms from 2" - 9" over as you say and then put either a large tub/shower combo across the back wall (where the toilet and vanity are right now) or just a large, luxurious shower - either 5'5" long or 6' long. Then you would still have room to fit a 3' vanity next to it and then the toilet. It's kind of a "typical" bathroom layout but as I said most efficient in a long skinny space like that.
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raehelen
Original Author
16 years ago
Hi Cat-Mom,

Yup, we're also renoing Living Room and Master Bedroom at the same time- you? :>) I just faux-painted our entry stair railing to make do until we add on to our front entry. So many balls in the air, hard to juggle it all at one time.

kgwlisa,

That's what I had thought of so far, basement ceiling has been ripped down, so all the plumbing is fully exposed, and present shower and bath have leaking problems, so things pretty well have to be redone anyways. I was even contemplating 'borrowing' more out of the common wall when we build it, by building in storage behind mirror and perhaps a deeper vanity.

I'm assuming this is a fairly basic/common plan, and hopefully others have paved the path...

Rae
weedyacres
16 years ago
I'm with Lisa: put the master shower/tub against the far wall, then toilet, then vanity.

For the main bath, I'd put the tub against the common wall, toilet on the back side of the closet, and vanity where it is. And consider double sinks on the vanity.
raehelen
Original Author
16 years ago
Thanks Weedyacres,

I'm not sure why you suggest double sinks. I see it in lots of bathrooms, but for us, I much prefer to have lots of counter space, for guests, (we sometimes have multiple sleep-over guests, and sewing room does double duty), they like having counter to put make-up, curlers, etc.

I mean, when I'm in the bathroom, I like to have it to myself, so can't see why I'd need to share a sink?
weedyacres
16 years ago
You're right: double sinks are for when 2 people are expected to use it at the same time. For example: husband and wife getting ready for bed at the same time, or kids that share a bathroom getting ready (brushing teeth) in the morning. If those scenarios aren't likely in your house, then you shouldn't get double sinks.

Oh, one other reason, particularly in Jack and Jill baths: each person gets their own sink (or possibly whole vanity), so they've got their own dedicated space to keep their stuff.
cat_mom
16 years ago
No raehelen, no other renovations planned at the same time, although we are thinking about swapping the DR for LR and both need to be completely furnished besides!

Oh wait, we do plan to steal space from the bedroom adjacent to ours to make closet space (since we'll be losing the closet in our bedroom with the bathroom reno). And then of course our bedroom will need a long overdue paint job, new carpeting, and long-awaited window treatments........

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