Grill pan on Induction range?
jaydubya
13 years ago
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What should I choose? Induction or grill?
Comments (6)There are certainly plenty of non-stick pans that are ompatible with induction, although they are mostly the higher-end variety, rather than the cheap light weight weight aluminum teflon-coated pans. My fave fry ultimate fry system consists of cookware that is perfect for induction and gas and are made by the high end German company Fissler. The Ultimate Steelux Set MSRP $329 contains four items - two of Fissler's best fry pans and two accessories to enhance their uses. Coated with Protectal Plus, an 11" diameter non-stick sealant that is rock-hard and nigh impossible to scratch is free of all harmful contaminants found in other nonsticks. Then Fissler 11" diameter Steelux is a deep frypan with rounded edges to facilitate easy flipping. The 11 diameter inch Crispy Steelux frypan has a unique interior Novogrill cooking surface that allows food to be grilled without the use of oils or fats. The regular fry pan is perfect for high heat coooking, such as steaks and other things, while the non-stick is perfect for lower heat cooking applications. Both frypans are suitable for use on a variety of stovetops including induction and are fitted with comfortable handles. The Ultimate Steelux Set also includes the Clippix spatter shield (also, by far the best splatter shield in the business)that fits on either frypan and a turner, specially designed for use with Fissler frypans. I gave away almost all my All-Clad cookware and have replaced them with Fissler in both their Pro collection and their Intensa collection. They are so far and away the best cookware I have ever used it is mind-boggling. Anyway, this long prologue is mostly meant to make the point that one should almost never make their cooktop decisions based on their current pots and pans, unless that investment is in the thousands of dollars. I would likely get a 30" or 36" induction with either a high output gas hob for stir frying and/or grilling. I don't know why I mentioned grilling, as induction under high heat is better than gas. Only grilling over an open flame would have advantages, but the mess inside would be astounding. When the weather is foul, I grill inside with my Fissler 11" high temp pan on induction and get great results. Obviously in nice weather I go out on the deck and grill on the Kalamazoo gas grill. I also use the 60,000 BTU side burner outside for wok cooking, as that requires far more heat than any available gas indoor burner permits. Greg...See Moreinduction range and frying pans for DH omlets
Comments (17)Before the remodel I had a ScanPan classic non-stick omelet pan that I loved. I have previously had an Anolon pan and a Circulon pan that had over the course of a year or two lost their non-stick-yness. But the ScanPan was three years old and was nearly as non-stick as when new. Unfortunately it was not induction-capable. Since then I had been using a Kenmore-labeled Farberware Millenium pan for a couple of years, and it too had lost its non-stick-yness, and needed about a tablespoon of cooking oil to prevent the omelet from sticking all over it. It seemed like I was deep frying the omelet with that much oil. For my birthday last September, my wife got me a ScanPan CTX 8" omelet pan, which is induction-capable. I've used it only for eggs since then, but have probably made about 75 omelets and 75 eggs over-easy, and have yet to need or use even a drop of oil....See MoreInduction - pan size vs. surface size (& new Viking 36" Induction)
Comments (7)I do not have this unit and am not recalling seeing much about this 36" Viking model here in the last couple of years since this thread was active. You might have better luck attracting responses from current owners and users here if you started a thread of your own and put the model number in your thread title. As for using your large LC pans, I'm not sure I know what you are asking. Have you used induction before? If not, maybe you are not quite understanding how to ask the questions. Let me take a stab at what you might be asking. * Are you asking if the full size Viking induction cooktops like this one have the same problem recognizing LC pans that that the old Viking single-burner portable induction cooktop units (PICs) once had back in the previous decade? The answer to that is that the full size cooktops and the Viking induction ranges have never had that problem. The problem was limited to those old and long discontinued PIC models. * Or, are you asking if there will be a problem operating a burner with a pan larger than a particular induction hob space. Say, your LC pans have 12" diameter bases overtop the 9" square hob spaces of the Viking cooktop? The answer is that your LC pans will all work, but may intrude sufficiently into the adjoining hob spaces that the LC pans don't leave enough space for pans on the other three burners. For example, maybe you want to use a couple of 12" LC frypans --- one on the front right hob and another on the left front hob --- and then want to plant a large LC dutch oven on the middle hob in the back. So, how big are the pans you want to use at the same time on the other three burners? For that matter, how often do you figure you will be using all six burners at the same time and need to be running two or three 12" diameter (or larger) LC pans? Frankly, the best thing to do to find out how the cooktop will or will not work is to take your array of pans to a dealer and see if and how they all fit. If you can't find a showroom example, try using the dimensions shown on the installation instructions to draw a full scale layout with a sharpie or magic marker on a piece of newspaper. * Or, are you asking if a nine-inch square induction hob will evenly heat the entire base of a large LC pot or pan with, say, a 12" diameter (or larger) base. The answer is that you will have the same behavior with LC pans that you will have with any cast iron pan on any burner (gas, electric, or induction). IOW, no problem with braises, soups and stews, where you have liquid to even out the heat, but you will need lengthy pre-heating to get an even spread of heat across any cast-iron base when you want perfectly uniform heating as for searing or browning out to the edges of the base. This is a property of all cast iron, not just LC. If the VIking cooktop had some burners with larger diameter induction fields (large enough to encompass the entire base of your big LC pans) the cast iron would still heat unevenly. Preheating to evenness might take a bit less time with the larger burner, but it still will take quite a while. That's just the nature of cast iron cookware. FWIW, Cook's Illustrated has been recommending that you put cast iron pans in a hot oven for a half hour or longer to preheat CI skillets for stovetop searing like cooking steaks. Then you run the stovetop at lesser heat which is sufficient to maintian the searing temps for the cooking session. Again, the preheating and unevenness will be no big deal for tasks like braising, boiling water, deep fat frying, stocks, soups and stews with a lot of liquid. Probably not a problem, either, for making a very long simmered tomatoey ragu or long-cooking of beans. But where you will need workarounds will be for stir fries or browning where you need every square inch of base surface to be perfectly evenly heated for the meat or bacon or veggies or whatever that you want to brown. Again, you would need the same workarounds with any stove where the burners are not sized for large pans, whether gas or regular electric burners as well as induction....See MoreDouble grill/griddle pan for Miele induction
Comments (10)The problem isn't the single pan over two elements. The bridge is specifically for that, but most older units can handle the long pan if the elements are paired. The trick without a powered bridge element is not having a cold center. Without a bridge, clad is essential for that reason. The copper and/or aluminum speed up the warming to the center. With a powered bridge, you're fine with cast iron. The double I was warning about is a "grill/griddle plate". I have two, from before I had induction. Both are cast iron. One is Le Creuset, and single burner sized, though square. I have a two burner gas unit I use it on still, and I put it in the oven for broiling lamb chops. The grill is small fine ridges. Both sides have gutters for the fat. The big one is very heavy--a gift--branded with a famous chef's name. It's too big for any stove I've ever used, but good in the oven fro things like kebobs. It has big honkin' ridges. I find both kinds of ridges useful, depending on what I'm making. Anyway, the trouble with grill on one side and griddle on the other (the griddle of the small one is good for things like hotdogs, where the hot air from the gas coming up around it is useful), is that there's a raised ridge around both sides. That gives it something to sit on, since both sides are cooking surfaces. There are also some older pots that have ridges to stand on. All makers of induction stoves say not to use these. I wondered why for awhile, since the important part is still within the field and heat up fine. Y'know how with induction the surface of the stove heats up not from the energy going through it but from the heat of the pot sitting on it? This effect also works with the air captured between the surface and the pot, closed in by the rim the pot/griddle is standing on. The air can get extremely hot and cause burns when you move the pot. It can also get hot enough, apparently (I've only read about it happening once or twice), that enough stress is added to crack the stove. I don't know the accuracy of the latter, but for sure the burn issue is factual. On a Miele, the field should be strong enough to power a double sided pan adequately, but I'd still suggest that you'd do better with separate grill and griddle pans. Always, with induction, you'll get the best outcome if you have the most of the pot as possible in direct contact with the glass. If you were hoping for double duty, you might consider using a big roaster as a griddle if the sides won't annoy you. You can make pancakes in the same kind of pan that you use for lasagna or a small turkey. OTOH, you can also use a two burner griddle as a plancha....See Morelarsi_gw
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