"But it's through Mary's kind of open, honest blundering that we all learn. She may have been a dumbass in this particular circumstance, but she was an honest dumbass, and there's not much more we can ask of one another." That is true when you look at it from the first post and I was going to let it go with my first post until she came back with an attitude, blaming someone else for her actions and changing her story to a native story to get herself off the hook. That is when her dumbass honesty went right out the door. Then the others pile on. Glad C3D ended it with the truth about euthanasia. I'm with you Z-Chick on the instant brain death method. She really would have faired better if all that 'support' didn't show up to aggrevate the situation. Who am I to judge her - nobody. I've cleanly killed plenty of animals and that IS hypocritical from a death standpoint. I am sorry but I could not let it pass because she was killing a hapless creature and looking for congratulations. She faired FAR BETTER than the frog and we all know she will do the same thing again - she said so directly. She will control her pond against nature. Wait until the first snake shows up, or raccoon, or heron...... If anything - other posters will learn not to be such dumbasses but I don't believe it will stop them from posting to learn. This person was not posting to learn. I am done with it (I hope) unless another dumbass pops up (and then this dumbass will jump right back into the thick of it). Not much more I can say to the original OP however - as I shredded her actions to the maximum already (good, bad or ugly as it may have been). The 'plant boy bring it' was hysterical BTW. Good thing you said that because that post hit about 3 major nerves for me and I did hold back. Anyway - who wants to lay down money that thread is not done:-)

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Hello Ian, yes I agree that the climate is certainly not ideal for growing Adeniums in the UK, but that does not mean we cannot grow them! I can also grow palms, daturas, brugmansias and many other 'tropicalesque' plants as they do not have to be grown outdoors which would obviously not be a good idea here! I have a greenhouse instead. I have 11 plants (Adeniums)that I have grown from seed, 10 of which are strong and healthy and as good as those grown by my on-line friends from warmer climates. Admittedly, I have yet to get one to hold it's buds and give me open flowers, but I will get there, and soon, and I will go as far as to say I will post pictures to prove it :) Purpleinopp, hello to you also. Thank you for being pleased for us. The fact that over 50 Adenium growers supported my request to have our own forum, Gweb obviously thought this was a viable idea and granted it. The final decision was theirs after all. More people have joined the forum since it's launch so it speaks for itself! As you are obviously not familiar with Adeniums or their culture, which can be totally different from regular 'houseplants', can I inform you that they are most definitely NOT prickly, they are NOT slow growing given the right conditions especially in their early years, and they are also NOT unnatractive. IMHO of course. You only have to check out the pictures we have posted or look at the header picture which is of a plant grown by one of our posters. As you say, each to their own. I hope you continue to enjoy your plants and the houseplant forum, I'm off to somewhere more interesting. Enjoy. Gill from the UK.