Fave rose gardens in Europe

susan82

22 years ago

Would love your comments/photos!

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roselin32
22 years ago
The Danube Park in Vienna-built on which was once a landfill, it is now a gorgeous park with wonderful roses and other flowers.
DavidJoe
21 years ago
Sue

Sissinghurst is looking very good at the moment and I will try and e-mail you some photos. Constance Spry was looking fabulous, and lots of lovely climbers like Lady Hillingdon, Pauls Lemon Pillar, Meg, Easlea's golden rambler and many more.

The other 'must vist' is Graham Stuart-Thomas's collection of roses at Mottisfont Abbey - owned by the National Trust.

I would love to hear others opinions, especially on French and UK rose gardens.

David
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With Paris, I think safest bet probably would be some time in May, when further towards Atlantic in Bretagne or Normandy it is a few weeks later. Paris is well inland and it is rather hot there even in mid May already. Just that Paris is rather meh regarding the gardens, to be honest any English or Dutch village beats Paris in prettiness of the gardens. For the castle seeing also it is either England, either mid France castles in Loire Valley or Dordogne. The later is nice, but with a car or a group, otherwise it is a bit nightmarish traveling and logistics, as you probably will have to book hotels in separate towns for each night to see a lot. England is a bit easier, as most you can easily reach from London, if not located in London itself.
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Hi Circejane, The basic stuff I have on my roses are aphids, caterpillars and the occasional leaf-roller wasp (they roll the leaf and put a larvae inside the roll I think). Irritating also, but not yet a plague are rose fleas or leaf fleas (don't know whether this is an exact translation in English). They are smallish (4 mm.) creamy white insects present on the underside of the leaf. When young they are smaller and often immobile. The adults are the ones that do the damage: on the underside of the leaf they suck 'life' out of the plant cells, causing white spots to appear on the leaf. When disturbed, the flea jumps away (it's in between jumping, floating and flying :-) This year, I noticed a small black beetle (2-3 mm.) on the blooms. I don't know whether they eat the blooms or not. Sometimes they are present in a hole in the bloom, but those holes are more likely made by a caterpillar. Lot's of flying things also. They are often species of wasps, either parasitic or those that lay eggs near aphid colonies, so the larvae can eat them. Beneficial! Of course, Italy might have other insects, because of climate differences. Thank god we do not have Japanese Beetles! I never noticed thrips either. I don't think we have rose midge, but of course I can be wrong. From the stories I hear, I think the insect pressure on roses (and in general) is much less than in North America, giving us Europeans more opportunities for organic control! Good luck! Rob
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Indian Love Call has the prettiest wood and hips. I have always loved how the cool temps combined with brilliant winter sun turn the surfaces the sun hits of both a deep purple while the surfaces not receiving direct sun remain deeper green. Those purple and green shades set off the large, brilliant orange hips to perfection. Later in winter, the purple fades to oranges, reds and yellows before the foliage all turns brown and falls, leaving the purple/green wood with sprays of orange hips. I don't have any photos of that, unfortunately, as they're all unscanned 35 mm slides, but this is an Indian Love Call "child". Her strong, smooth canes with their "Basye's Legacy" fall coloring, carry through to further generations, as does her lovely colored foliage. These are pieces of some of her children and grand children. Climbing Yellow Sweetheart can produce amazing basal growth. Thick, strong, tall shoots crowned with enormous flower heads. I had it in a five gallon can waiting for somewhere (which never arrived) to plant it. The thing grew through the drain holes and began pushing these types of shoots. It really reminded me of the type of sumptious flowering shoots the Noisette, Allister Stella Gray used to push for me. Having the excitement and fun of "rediscovering" a "lost" Ralph Moore rose with Jim Delahanty made it even more special. It's actually a cousin of Annie Laurie McDowell's.
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Ah, I have 5 'Millenium' due to arrive any day. New to me but clearly, something of a hot favourite here.What is the spread of a mature plant? Good to hear Prairie Blues is a do-er - I have schizachyrium scoparium 'Prairie Blues' in the greenhouse (waiting for germination). I am looking forward to growing a few more ornamental grasses again, after a few years off. I am going to add a tree to my list. My favourite tree family - sorbus - includes so many fabulous species, it's hard to choose just one (same for the JM fans, I imagine) but I am going with one of the Chinese mountain ash - the lovely r.pseudohupehensis 'Pink Pagoda'
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Paulfzimmerman
21 years ago
Visit Mottisfont. Also stop by Peter Beales' nursery. Both well worth the visit!
DavidJoe
21 years ago
Susan

I couldn't remember if I ever sent you the Sissinghurst photographs I promised. Send me an e-mail and I will attach them to my reply (I couldn't figure out how to do this on the GardenWeb system!)

Dave Parkers invectis site is very good for Sissinghurst photos. See the link below.

I would also agree with Paul that Mottisfont is well worth a visit and has an extensive collection of old garden roses, and the climbers and ramblers are lovely.

Happy garden visits!!

Here is a link that might be useful: Dave Parker's photos including Sissinghurst
zone17
21 years ago
I lived in Lyon for 8 months in 1989 only a few blocks from the Jardin Tete d'Or. I think I remember that it has the 8th largest rose garden in the world. The gardens in the park are beautiful and on Sundays the French all stroll around in their Sunday best. There are swans in the lake and a huge botanical garden and even a zoo.
I can never stress how under-rated Lyon is. The city center is absoultely beautiful. It was used as the setting for the Prague scenes in The Unbearable Lightness of Being. They have the best food in the world, and in summer the Rue Merciere is closed to traffic because all the restaurants pull their tables out into the streets. They are so under-touristed that they don't have the attitude that Parisians have - partly though, because they're southerners. There are four universities, many churches and museums, and I must say, the Saturday market on the Rhone/Siene rivers is not to be missed if you are a seeker of the finest gastronomie.
From Lyon it is only 2 hours north to Beaune (Burgundy) on the TGV, and then just a jump again to Paris.
Enjoy,
Carla

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