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Who's planted out tomatoes and peppers?

highalttransplant
15 years ago

We are pretty much past the last expected frost date, though I haven't found the exact date for my town anywhere. Anyway, everytime I start to harden the plants off to put them in the garden, we have a day or two of strong winds, then I have to keep them inside, and start all over again.

The forecast is calling for winds of 20 - 30 mph with gusts up to 40 mph for today through Friday, so I guess it won't happen for me till at least the beginning of next week.

Anyone have theirs in the ground? How do you protect them from the damaging winds?

Bonnie

Comments (40)

  • jamie_mt
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It's been raining too much here...today's the first day we haven't had a rain shower yet this morning! Very odd for our climate. I actually stuck everything back in the greenhouse the other night, with lows predicted around 37.

    Today it's supposed to start warming up finally (and hopefully drying out), so maybe this weekend I'll get things planted.

    We've had some fairly good gusts, but my plants seemed to take it in stride (I just left them sitting out in front of the greenhouse all last week/weekend)...the wind was really the least of my worries, but they're fairly good sized plants with strong stems, and when I plant them out, the peppers will be caged, and the tomatoes on trellisses, so that should give them enough support, I think.

    I can't wait to get them planted out!

  • michelle_co
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I planted a few out - but I have lots more just in case! They are set quite deep, so that there's not much above ground for the wind to tear up. Plus they have been out in the strong winds every day on the patio for several weeks.

    I don't even worry about it. :-)

    - Michelle

    ps. one 'mater planted out got stepped on and flattened by the guy moving my henhouse. He actually stood there on it for a couple of minutes - I didn't say anything to him since he did me a favor moving the henhouse. It popped itself back up and looks fine. They are tougher little buggers than I would have thought.

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    last modified: 9 years ago

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    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • highalttransplant
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Well, I gambled on the wind today. I was gone for a few hours this morning, and the plants were out on the porch. When I got home, the peppers were leaning a bit, but otherwise looked fine. The tomatoes are another story. The sturdier varieties held up, but some that have more relaxed (?) foliage, like the Opalka, really took a beating. Some of the leaves were just dangling. The plants will probably recover, but I was glad they weren't in the ground yet, and I could bring them inside.

    Digit, I had to look up what a "silt fence" was. They seem to run about $30 for 100', which is way more than I need, but like you said, maybe I can create a homemade version. That sounds like another project for DH, LOL!

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    Skybird, isn't that area on the right where your tomato cages are, your wintersowing area? Did you get everything planted out, or did you move your containers to another area? I will definitely plan on planting the tomatoes deep. Can I do the same with the peppers?

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  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Bonnie, the 6 WS flats I have left are back where they started which is behind the wire trellises you see on the right next to the house that have peas starting up them. If you look carefully, you can see the gray flats behind the wire. When I was turning over the garden a couple months ago I moved them over to the left side on the compost end for a while till I needed that space to plant the summer squash and cukes that I just got in. I started the squash in pots inside this year and I actually have one to go out yet thats just germinating now. Its a white patty pan that I used very old seed for, so its taken almost a month for them to germinate. Plan to put that one out next week. The cukes were just direct seeded. The space where the WS stuff is now is where Im putting the leeks, so I dont have any idea where Im going to move them when I plant the leeks in the next few days!

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    And, no, definitely dont bury the peppers deeper! If the seed leaves are high up on the stem, you can probably bury them a little bit deeper than they are in the pot, but generally bury them at the same depth they are in the pot they were started in. If they seem to need some help with the wind, put small stakes in next to them and loosely tie them. Im sure you do get a lot of wind out there, so a little extra support would probably be good for them.

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  • jclepine
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I have two little tomatoes out. We are keeping them in giant pots again this year as we get year-round hail and high gusts that just clobbers the heck out of them.

    Last year we just brought them in when the weather was naughty. This year we are both working in Boulder and so I've already worried about them several times.

    They have only had to come in two nights so far and they did get hardened off, so hopefully they will be fine. They haven't really sprouted out much new growth but the yellow pear has the most fantastic and glorious energy feel/look to it. Must be a very happy plant!

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  • austinnhanasmom
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • digit
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wow! This year - my garden is smaller. It was time to draw back a little.

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  • highalttransplant
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • dafygardennut
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • highalttransplant
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • lilacs_of_may
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • dafygardennut
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • highalttransplant
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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    Sweet Chelsea I'll mix up these jumbo-sized cherries with the LRC but they are really sweet so taste-testing will work.
    SunSugar my favorite
    Sugar Lump - probably shouldn't have grown this one. The "old-fashioned flavor" is welcome but they are tart and it's tedious to pick these little 1/2 inch tomatoes.
    Ildi cnetter's tomato in 2007

    Peppers

    Thai Hot tiny 8" plants ripen fruit really early and they're really hot
    Super Chili another productive, hot one - very pretty, too
    Jalapeno M
    Garden Salsa - Really nice, productive pepper
    Big Chili Anaheim
    Giant Marconi Hybrid Very sweet and excellent both fresh and cooked.
    Marconi more productive than GM
    Marconi Red maybe a misake. I have a feeling they won't turn red until very late in the season and maybe too late.
    Canary Belle free seed.
    Peto Wonder a good early, large, sorta bell
    Whopper very consistent at producing nice bells.

    Did someone say eggplant?

    Dusky a proven performer
    AppleGreen - didn't get the seed early enuf for planting these pale green round guys in 2007. Very early and a nice mild flavor
    Thai Long Green Hybrid These green-skin eggplants are really good.
    Green Beauty May have gotten these mixed up with the Thai LG last year so will grow again to make sure I know which is which.

  • digit
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I also start lettuce in the greenhouse and set them out as "clumps." They grow reasonably well like that.

    Harvested the first small lettuce leaves a couple days ago - along with some orach and green onions for salad. Oh, and the arugula too . . . .

    digitS'

  • jamie_mt
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Everything is in - veggie-wise! My labeling system left a lot to be desired, so I'm hoping that one of the tomatoes is a yellow pear, and that at least one or two of the peppers are jalapeno.

    Tomatoes:
    Early Girl
    Big Boy
    White Bianca
    Yellow Pear?
    Italian Ice (White Cherry)
    Honey Bunch (current)

    I'm trying to find room for another Honey Bunch, but it's not looking good...

    Peppers:
    Green Bell
    Sweet Crimson
    Alma Paprika
    Sweet Cayenne
    Hot Portugal (already has a pepper)
    Kalediscope
    5 Color Marble
    Brazilian Pumpkin
    Yellow Mushroom
    Flourescent Purple

    Eggplant:
    Black Beauty

    Cucumbers:
    Pearl Hybrid (already fruiting)

    The greenhouse was good and bad this year - good to get everything off to a stellar start, and bad because I have *way* too much stuff started! The people I've given the extras to don't seem to mind though...

  • highalttransplant
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yeah, I finally gave away all of my extra tomato and broccoli plants to a neighbor down the street, and sent the tomato plants that I was growing for my DH's coworkers to work with him yesterday, so my pot ghetto (aka: the porch) is looking a little less cluttered. Yippee!!!

    I'm glad I grew a few extra, because I did end up needing a couple of them. Plus, it feels good to share : )

    Bonnie

  • jaliranchr
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Finally got my tomatoes in the ground. Had to wait so long to get them hardened off because I sold my cold frame so I didn't have that to help the babies and was at the mercy of a loitering cold May. But went ahead and planted 11 varieties with a total of 26 plants.

    Yes, Steve, I have Bloody Butcher right up front. :) That sweet production gem. :) Mostly old favorites but a couple new to me in Rainy's Maltese from Australia (Mantis says it does well in the aridity) and Yellow Submarine from Spud's growout. Skorospelka of course for the canning - that's a winner too. Not real adventurous this year but gotta have plenty to gorge on and I've been buying bacon like crazy before they up the price come BLT time.

  • margaretmontana
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    My tomatoes, peppers and cukes are growing slow in the hoop houses because of the cold. Wish it would warm up some. Deoesn't sound like it for this next week though. Digit, I wasn't really impressed with Legend. Grew it the past two years and decided not this year. Had problems with Isis Candy cracking last year and not so bad the year before but decided that I didn't need to grow it this year. Had real good production on Big Rainbow last year. I try to grow several yellow, black and orange ones. Aunt Gerty's German Green is good tasting but not producing more than a couple tomatoes per plant. Green Zebra wasn't exceptional for me. I am trying some new ones this year that I have't tried before. Think I counted 45 varieties. Hope they make it to ripen. Have really had a problem with flea beetles this year and lost a couple young transplants. After the plants get a llittle larger they don't take them out.

  • digit
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Shelley, can you believe that I've got a Bloody Butcher with a tiny fruit on it?!? It's smaller than the end of my little finger but . . . . kinda scary . . . . the plants are purple from the cold!

    45 varieties, Margaret!!? If two varieties have fruit with the same look to them, I'll mix 'em up. Since I try to harvest at "first blush," that means I can't figure out what I've got on the kitchen counter.

    I didn't even know that flea beetles liked tomato plants so well until 2 years ago. They darn near killed a few plants before I realized what was happening and ran to get the sprayer.

    Flea beetles like the eggplants too but I've gotten to expect that kind of behavior out of 'em. Leaving 'em go would be like allowing the gun club to come in and use the garden for skeet shooting.

    digitS'

  • lilacs_of_may
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    My tomato plants are still small, but a couple have flower buds. They're not growing very fast. I think possibly because they're busy growing a root system to fill out the large containers they're in. I have one tiny bell pepper seedling still inside, and it's growing at a geological pace.

    I still have a couple tomato seedlings inside, and I hope to get them outside tomorrow.

    Last year I found that Spinosad and Pyola help against the flea beetles. But I discovered it too late. I saved my third attempts at squash and melons, but by the time they thought about setting fruit, the frost hit them.

  • linda_utah
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Everything is out in the garden now. I spent this past weekend transplanting and planting. Our weather has turned from spring winds and frosts to temps of 90+ with lows around 60.

    For those worrying about the wind damaging their transplants, the easiest and best protection I've found is a coffee can with both ends cut out. Push the can down around the plant and you have great wind protection. I've never had the hot sun heat up the can and burn any part of the transplants, either. When the weather settles, pull the can from around the plant and let it continue to grow. We get some mean winds here in the high desert, but this trick has always worked well for us.

  • greenbean08_gw
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    To keep my peppers from being beat up by the wind, I circled a strip of sheer curtain, about the height of the plants, around them ( I only have 3 though) and attached it to a few sticks. My tomato seems big enough to handle it, but the poor peppers looked like they were going to be flattened. It seems to slow the wind pretty well.

  • securitysweetums
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The Beloved Hubby Unit bought me two new tomato plants to replace the two I set out in early May. One is a heat-resistant (just in case it's a hot summer)and the other is a Big Boy. We are seat-of-the-pants gardeners, but when the stuff does grow, abundant harvesters...lol! One year we gave away over 200 lbs. of patty-pan squash to the zoo and Silver Key, and one year I made about 3 gallons of yellow pear tomato puree cooked down from all the yellow cherry tomatoes that ripened...Made beautiful, golden spaghetti sauce all winter.

    We had trouble believing the "bury 80% of the plant" directions, but skybird's post verified that this is okay for the plants, so I am less concerned. They went into a mix of potting soil, composted steer manure, and time release fertilizer pellets, and yesterday was cool and overcast, so they transplanted well.

    With the tasteless tomatoes in the store hitting $2 plus a pound, I end up "visiting" them at the store, like you visit the animals at the zoo, so I wanted just a couple plants to remember how good home grown really are...when you don't set them out too early and they freeze, that is.

  • digit
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I tend not to bury the tomato stems deep. First of all, deep soil preparation is found in my old established gardens where cultivation is done with a spading fork. In the newer, larger veggie garden (with zillions of rocks), soil prep is a rototiller job. I'm lucky to have 6 inches of loose soil to set any plant in.

    The 2nd problem with setting them deep is that the soil is cold in May. I hope that what amounts to a "stone mulch" will benefit the surface with heat-gathering but know that soil temps fall quickly into the 40's at any depth. I've used a soil thermometer but haven't tested this idea using "double blind" experimenting and all that, however.

    The 3rd problem is that if I lay the plant at an angle, which is suppose to overcome problem #2 by keeping it close to the surface, it will continue to grow at an angle all season. It is already difficult to deal with the "tomato jungle" but this would add to the jungle jumble.

    I do "butterfly" out the roots when transplanting to encourage roots to spread and bury the tomato seed leaves. Now, do I have problems with the wind - you bet!! There are 3 plants laying down in the patch. One was actually broken . . . . ? I think I'll blame that on the rabbit.

    I carefully gathered soil (sifting out the big rocks) and buried the stems. Those plants have already begun to grow roots from their stems. They will be fine and should produce nice crops.

    digitS'