Hi Kylie! They are still in the pots I planted them in. The pink two years ago and the Betty Marshall a year ago. I really should repot the Betty Marshall, it is very large and almost certainly root bound. It is so large though - what a job! Molasses? The other things I know about but how/why do you give them molasses? The plants from Park are OK. The Lemon Twist is quite large (approx 10"), the Cassy's Curls is medium (approx 6") and the Cherub is small (approx 3"). They were packed fairly well and I only saw one leaf in the packing peanuts that broke off. They are pale from lack of light but I've had them in partial sun and they are looking good. I think they will really take off once they are out of the two inch pots they came in. I'm going to put them in half potting mix and half organic compost. Everything I put that organic compost in grows like mad! Thanks for the welcome. I've made a few trips to Texas to visit family and ya'll have always been so friendly! LOL Wendy

Here is my list of smaller veggies (for Socks12345) - I add to it from time to time as I come across new (to me) small veggies. I haven't tried 1/10 of these so you're on your own to experiment. Vertical gardening on a trellis, or strawberry tower/tube saves space too. I also look for short season, extra-early or early varieties to free up garden space sooner so I can plant more. Asterisks denote cool season crops, in general root and leaf crops. I didn't put asterisks on the cool tolerant tomatoes though but you can Google it and find more info. Amaranth, Polish, OP 40 days, smaller than other culinary amaranth, deep burgundy, Nichols Amaranth, Tender Leaf, dwarf developed in Taiwan, 3-8" tall, light green leaves, Evergreen Amaranth, Tiger Eye, 2-3 tall if harvested regularly Basil, Genovese Compact Improved, 74 days, best for containers, 18" JohnnyÂs Selected Basil, Spicy Globe, compact, 6" high x 12" across, Territorial Basil, Finissimo Verde a Palla, 10" in diameter, very small foliage, Territorial *Beans, runner, Hestia *Beans, runner, Dwarf Bees, 45 days, 18"-24" no trellis, scarlet, Containerseeds.com, Underwood Gardens *Beans, runner, Pickwick, UK Beans, bush snap, Masai, 47 days, 12" plants, container, 4" pods, outstanding flavor/texture, Cornell website Beans, bush snap, Venture, 55 days, Blue Lake type, high yields, crop ripens all at once, 22-34" plant, Territorial Beans, pole snap, Emerite, 53-64 days, 6-7 tall Beans, lima, Incan Giant @ Redwood City Seed Co. Bean, fava, Negreta, 70 days, 9-10" pods, 6-7 green seeds, dry purple, Territorial Beets Beets, Cylindra, 45-80 days, 6-8" roots, Victory Seeds, Containerseeds.com Beets, Forono, 55 days, 5"x 2", sweeter, JohnnyÂs Select Blueberry, Sunshine Blue Blueberry, Top Hat *Bok Choi, Bonsai, baby pac choi, 40 days, 6", JohnnyÂs Bok Choi, All Seasons, hybrid dwarf, Evergreen Bok Choi, Brisk Green, 50 days, 6-8" spoon leaves, non-heading, compact, Pinetree Bok Choi x Tatsoi, Da Cheong Chae, 50 days, space 6", JohnnyÂs Select Bok Choi, Dwarf Choi Sum/Short White Stalk, 3-8", Evergreen Bok Choi, Dwarf, 42 days, 4" tall, Kitazawa Bok Choi, Extra Dwarf, 30 days, 2" tall, Baker Creek, Kitazawa Bok Choi, Green Baby, 30 days, dwarf 6" heads, Containerseeds, Evergreen Bok Choi, Green Boy, heat tolerant, dwarf, Evergreen Bok Choi, Green Fortune, 45 days, 6-8" mini-heads, ReneeÂs Bok Choi, Long Green Petiole, 21-28 days, Evergreen Bok Choi, Medium, 45 days, 6" tall, Kitazawa Bok Choi, Mei Qing Choi, 35-45 days, hybrid dwarf, JohnnyÂs, Stokes Bok Choi, Riki Baby, 44-55 days, 6" tall, heat tolerant, John Scheepers Bok Choi, Shanghai Green Choi, Nichols, Baker Creek Bok Choi, Short Green Petiole, hybrid dwarf, Evergreen Bok Choi, Summer Boy, heat resistant, dwarf, Evergreen Bok Choi, Toy Choi Pac Choi hybrid, 35 days, 4  5" miniature, container, Nichols Bok Choi, Tropic Wonder, hybrid dwarf, Evergreen Bok Choi (similar crop), Extra Dwarf Choi Sum, 21-28 days, Containerseeds, Evergreen *Broccoli, Fiesta, 65 days, 6 -7" heads, compact plants, Territorial Seeds Broccoli, Munchkin, OP 60 days, 12" plants 4" heads, side shoots, Nichols Garden Seeds Broccoli, Small Miracle, 56 days, 12" plant 6-8" heads, moderate side shoots, Territorial *Brussels Sprouts, Long Island Improved, 95 days, compact 2 tall, Containerseeds.com Brussels Sprouts, Vancouver, 90-100 days, 18"-24" tall, Containerseeds.com *Cabbage, Arrowhead II, 66 days, pointed mini, JohhnyÂs Select Cabbage, Greyhound, 64-73 days, pointed, dwarf 2-3#, xlnt mild flavor, Bountiful Gardens Cabbage, Gonzales, 55  60 days, 2-3 lb. heads, softball size, Territorial Seeds Cabbage, Early Jersey Wakefield, OP Heirloom, 65 days, pointed 2-3 lbs. compact, Nichols Garden Seeds, Victory Seeds Cabbage, Golden Acre, 64 days, 5-7", 3-4 lbs, not longstanding, yellows resistant, Victory Seeds Cabbage, Parel, 50 days, 1.5 lbs, 6" heads, holds 3 weeks, Territorial Seeds Cabbage, savoy, Samantha, 85 days, small pointed heads, JohnnyÂs Select Cabbage, red, Super Red 80, 73 days, medium, peppery superior flavor, plant close for single serving size, JohnnyÂs Cabbage, red, Red Express, 63 days, medium, compact 2-4 lbs., JohnnyÂs *Cauliflower, Early Dawn Cauliflower, Snowball, 52-70 days, 6-7" snow white heads, Bountiful Gardens Carrot, Amsterdam 2 Maxi, UK Carrot, Baby Babette, 70 days, harvest at 3-4" Carrot, Baby Sweet, 49 days Carrot, Chantenay #1 & Red Cored, 71 days, tapered 5" roots, France 1830s,Victory Seeds Carrot, Chantilly, 72 days, 5-6" dark orange roots Carrot, Early Market, 68 days, short blunt 2-6" roots, early season, Bountiful Gardens Carrot, Gold King, 70 days, stump 6", reddish orange, very sweet, Victory Seeds Carrot, Kinko, 52 days, 4" roots, Containerseeds.com, JohnnyÂs Select Carrot, Kurota Chantenay, 70 days, 5-8", best as fall crop, good keeper, heavy soils Carrot, Little Finger, 60-65 days, Burpee, Victory Seeds Carrot, Man Thumb, 60-70 days, 1-2" bright orange, no peeling, containers Carrot, Mini Sweet, 60 days, 4", early Japanese, smooth skin, orange-red Carrot, Nantes Coreless, 65-75 days, 6-8" nearly coreless Carrot, Nantes Improved, 62 days, 6", nearly coreless, orange-red, Victory Seeds Carrot, Nantes Scarlet, 68 days, outstanding flavor, 4-5", Victory Seeds Carrot, New Kuroda, 110 days, sub-tropical, 6" deep orange, sweet Carrot, Oxheart, 90 days, Containerseeds.com, Seeds of Change (best strain) carroty Carrot, Parabel, 60-65 days, 1-1.5" round roots, early season, very juicy, Bountiful Gardens Carrot, Pariser Market 4, 55-60 days, small round roots, early specialty Carrot, Parmex, 65 days, Thompson & Morgan Carrot, Resistafly, 70 days, harvest as baby 4" roots Carrot, Royal Chantenay Supreme, 58-70 days, early, 5-7" Carrot, Shin Kuroda, 75 days, 5-7" x 3" Japanese type Carrot, Thumbelina, OP 60 days, AAS winner, round, Nichols Garden Seeds, Victory Seeds Carrot, Tonda di Parigi, 65 days, early round Parisian heirloom, 1.5" Carrot, Yaya, 56 days, 6" blunt tip, baby or full size flavor, excellent keeper, can get up to 1 lb. 4" across top Chard, Bionda di Lyon, 25 days baby, pale green w/white petioles, no fiber very tender, mild flavor, JohnnyÂs Chard, Bright Lights, 50-60 days, 20" plants Chard, Erbette, 30-55, Italian continual harvest, resprouts leaves, Bountiful Gardens Chard, Silverado, 55-65 days, 14-16" plants, deeply savoyed leaves, slow to bolt, Stokes, Veseys Citrus, Improved Meyer Lemon Collards, Flash, 78 days, 18" plants, smooth flat leaves, slow to bolt, JohnnyÂs, Stokes Collards, Top Bunch, 70 days, 18" plants, hybrid, fast growing, lightly savoyed leaves, resists bolting, top performer, good yields, good flavor, JohnnyÂs, Stokes Corn, Blue Jade, 70-80 days, 3 tall, 3-6 ears, Containerseeds.com, Amazon Corn, Chires Baby, 75-90 days, 4-5 tall, 3-5 stalks, (40) tiny ears per plant. Corn, Golden Bantam, OP heirloom, 75-85 days, 5-6 tall, Containerseeds.com, Victory Seeds, Underwood Gardens (12 row) Corn, Hooker's Sweet Indian Corn, white with yellow at milk stage, dries purple-black 6" ears, 3-4Â, SSE Corn, Lady Finger, short plants, 6-7" ears Corn, Orchard Baby, 65 days, 4-5Â, (2) 5-6" yellow, Victory Seeds Corn, Red Strawberry Popcorn, 115 days, 4Â, Victory Seeds Corn, Sunshine (x Golden Bantam), 75 days 5.5Â, 12 row 6-8" yellow, rare, Victory Seeds Corn, Tom Thumb, 85 days, yellow popcorn, dwarf 3 ½ tall, JohnnyÂs Cucumber, Bush Champion, 55 days, huge fruits, Burpee Cucumber, pickling, Bush Pickle Hybrid, 45 days, bush, container culture Shumway Seeds Cucumber, Cool Breeze, cornichons, 5 vines, Containerseeds.com Cucumber, pickling, Cross Country, 51 days, semi-bush, dense planting-high yield Shumway Seeds Cucumber, slicing, Fanfare, 52 days, semi-bush extra dwarf (1/2 size of normal vines) Shumway Seeds Cucumber, Lemon, 70 days, 3 -4 semi-bush vines, Territorial Seeds, Nichols Cucumber, Little Leaf, 57 days, compact multibranching vine, leaves 50% smaller,medium size fruit, yield well under stress, JohnnyÂs Cucumber, Miniature White, 50-55 days, vines 3Â, Containerseeds.com Cucumber, Picklebush, 52 days, 2 vines, Burpee, high customer ratings Cucumber, Salad Bush hybrid, 57 days, AAS winner, 8" fruit, 24" vine/bush, Nichols Cucumber, Saladbush hybrid, 57 days, tiny plants, 2Â-3 vines, Burpee Cucumber, Spacemaster, 60 days, 3 diam bush, Containerseeds.com Eggplant, Bambino, 52 days, 12" plant, 1.5" diameter fruits, full flavor, Nichols Eggplant, Bride, 75 days, 7  8" fruit, compact plants, Territorial Seeds Eggplant, Caliope, 64 days, Containerseeds.com Eggplant, Dusky, 65-70 days, 3-5" fruits, extremely productive, compact plants, Nichols Eggplant, Fairy Tale, 50 days, 24" plant, AAS winner, Nichols, Park Seeds Eggplant, Hansel, 70 days, 2  10" fruits, compact for container culture, AAS winner,Territorial Seeds *Endive, Rhodos, 65 days, frise, tightly massed, compact plant, Territorial *Kale, Dwarf Blue Curled Scotch, OP 55 days, 15" plants 24" spread, Nichols, Victory Seeds Kale, Dwarf Siberian Improved, 65 days, 15" blue frilled leaves, Victory Seeds Kale, Red Chidori, 50 days, green outer, bright red center, frilly leaves, Xtra compact, Territorial Seeds Kale, dinosaur, Toscano, 30 days baby size, very dark blistered leaves, JohnnyÂs Select *Kohlrabi, Eder, extra early, 38 days, JohnnyÂs *Leeks Leek, Carantan, 100 days, Victory Seeds *Lettuce, Anuenue, 50 days, like a small iceberg, heat tolerant, JohnnyÂs Lettuce, butterhead, Australe, 49 days, mini or full size, bolts fast, JohnnyÂs Select Lettuce, Baby Oakleaf, 47 days, miniheads, JohnnyÂs Lettuce, butterhead/Romaine, Baby Star, 65 days, 5" tall, Nichols, very tasty Lettuce, Cherokee, 48 days, very dark red, slow to bolt, JohnnyÂs Lettuce, Crisphead, OP 70 days, compact, slow bolt, Nichols Lettuce, Romaine, Claremont, 46 days, 9" tall space 6", JohnnyÂs Select Lettuce, butterhead, Garden Babies, 53-73 days, 5-6" heads, container, slow to bolt, Renees Lettuce, oakleaf, Ferrari, 44 days, reddish, compact heads, JohnnyÂs Select Lettuce, Green Deer Tongue, 50 days, 7  8" pinwheel, Territorial Seeds Lettuce, Jamai, 45 days, dark red, compact, mild not bitter, JohhnyÂs Select Lettuce, Romaine, Little Gem Fruit, 70 days, 6-8" heads, semi-savoyed, Containerseeds, John Scheepers, Vesey Lettuce, Romaine, Little Gem, 50-70 days, Containerseeds.com, hardy. Lettuce, red Romaine, Little Leprechaun, 52 days, Containerseeds.com Lettuce, Matina, OP 53-73 days, small individual butterhead, Nichols Garden Seeds Lettuce, Nevada, 48 days, greenleaf, JohnnyÂs Select Lettuce, Oscarde, 45 days, lobed cherry red leaves, JohnnyÂs Lettuce, Romaine, Petit Rouge, 48 days, container culture, Territorial Seeds Lettuce, Romaine, Rubens Baby, 50-60 days, dwarf, harvest 6-8", red outer leaves, John Scheepers Lettuce, Tom Thumb, OP 65 days Heirloom, extra small 3-4" ball, Nichols, best tasting butterhead! Lettuce, Romaine, Sucrine, 60 days, very compact, Territorial Seeds Lettuce, butterhead, Sweet Red, 54 days, compact 7" heads, Burpee Lettuce, Romaine, Winter Density, 8" compact, Territorial Seeds Melon, casaba, Amy, 5 vines, Park Seeds Melon, cantaloupe, Honey Bun hybrid, 73 days, bush, 5" fruit, yield 3  4 fruits per vine, Burpee Melon, cantaloupe, Fastbreak, 69 days, 4-5 lbs, 6 per plant, Territorial Melon, cantaloupe, GurneyÂs Giant Hybrid Cantaloupe, 80 days, compact vines, 18 lbs. 4-5 fruits Melon, Minnesota Midget, 70 days, early, very compact vines, 1 lb fruit, 1948, slips and grows in tubs. Mustard, mizuna, Waido, 21 days baby, wider less serrated leaves, more flavor, JohnnyÂs Select Onion, bunching, Nabechan, 65 days, sweet complex flavor cooked, JohnnyÂs Select Onion, Pearl Drop, 68 days, mini white, JohnnyÂs Selected Onion, Purplette, 60 days, bunching or golfball size, JohnnyÂs Selected Onion, Snow Baby, *Parsley, Extra Curled Dwarf, compact 10-12" plant, Burpee Parsley, Forest Green, 75 days, 10-12" double/triple curled leaves, heat tolerant, JohnnyÂs, Nichols Parsley, Prezzemolo Gigante dÂItalia, 12" plants, flat dark green leaves, Pinetree Parsley, Sweet Curly, 10-12" plants, ReneeÂs *Peas, Little Marvel, OP Heirloom 1908, 62 days, 16"-18" tall, Containerseeds.com Peas, Premium, 51 days, 30" tall, 7-8 very sweet medium peas, extra early, JohnnyÂs Select Peas, snow & snap, Snow Sweet, 60 days, dual use, stringless, 24" vine no support, JohnnyÂs Peas, Tom Thumb, OP Heirloom 1800, 50-55 days, 8"-12" edible shoots, leaves, flowers Peas, Snap, Sugar Ann, 52 days, 25" tall, best xtra-early short vined pea, AAS winner Containerseeds.com, JohnnyÂs Select Peas, Snap, Sugar Sprint, 60 days, 2 tall, Containerseeds.com Peas, Snow, Dwarf Gray Sugar, OP Heirloom 1892, 55-60 days, 2Â-3Â, JohhnyÂs Select Peas, snow, Little Sweetie, 60 days, 16" vine, 2.5" pods, heat tolerant, Stokes Peas, tendril & peas, Gonzo, 58 days, huge yields of tendrils for stir fry, xlnt peas too, JohnnyÂs Select Pepper, Early Jalapeno, picante, 60 days green, 80 days red, JohnnyÂs Pepper, Ace, bell pepper, 50 days green, 70 days red, medium size, JohnnyÂs Pepper, Carmen, sweet pepper Italian bulls-horn, 60 days green 80 days red, JohnnyÂs Pepper, Cherry Bomb, picante, 62 days green, 87 days red, strong tall plant, JohnnyÂs Pepper, Red Knight, 77 days, fruity, sweet, compact open plants, JohnnyÂs Pepper, Sweet Chocolate, bell pepper, 58 days green, 78 days brown, cool night tolerant, heavy set, JohnnyÂs Pumpkin, Cheyenne Bush, 80-90 days, 5-8 lb. fruit, Containerseeds.com Pumpkin, Jack of All Trades, 90 days, 9-12 lbs, round, semi-bush vines, Nichols Pumpkin, Magic Lantern, 95 days, 16  24 lbs., compact vines, Territorial Seeds Pumpkin, Racer, 85 days, 12-16 lbs, green stem, 2-3 per plant, semi-bush vines, JohnnyÂs Pumpkin, Sorcerer, 90-100 days, 15-25 lbs., semi-vining, Nichols Pumpkin, Spirit, 5 semi-bush, 12" fruit, Containerseeds.com Squash Summer Lebanese White Bush Marrow, 50 days, compact plant for limited space, Baker Creek Salman, 40 days, compact plants, very good flavor, Nichols Zucchini, Spacemiser F1 Hybrid, 49 days, 18"-24" plant, Containerseeds.com Winter Buttercup: Autumn Cup, 95 days, 2.5 lbs., semi-bush Shumway Seeds Bon Bon 81 days, 4 lbs., semi-bush, AAS award Shumway Seeds Discus Bush Buttercup, 90 days, 3 lbs., bush 3 across, yield 4, Territorial Seed Orange Cutie 95 days, 1.7 lb, semi-bush, fantastic fruit count Shumway Seeds Butternut: Atlas 90 days, early, 4 lbs., short vine, Shumway Seeds Butterbush, 75 days, 4 vines, 1.5 lbs, yield 4  5 fruits per vine, Burpee Early Butternut Squash, 85 days, AAS winner, medium size fruit, compact plant, Territorial Seeds Misc.: Squash, acorn, Honey Bear, Squash, Bush Table King, acorn, 85 days, more compact than BTQ, 2 lbs. 5  8 yield, Victory Seeds, AAS award winner 1974 Squash, Bush Table Queen, acorn, 80 days, 3 across bush, prolific, 1948, Burpee Squash, Carnival, 95 days, semi-bush, 1.5 X larger than Sweet Dumpling, inferior flavor, JohnnyÂs Selected Seeds Squash, Cornell Bush Delicata, 100 days, 6", semi-bush, stores 4 months Squash, Early Acorn hybrid acorn, 75 days, yields 5 large fruits, Burpee Squash, Gold Nugget squash, 85 days, 1.5 lbs, yield 10, bush 3 - 4 across, Territorial Seed Squash, spaghetti, Hasta la Pasta, 73 days, compact vines, orange flesh, Burpee Squash, Mesa Queen, acorn squash, 70 days, 3 -4 lbs, semi-bush, great yield, 9 per plant, Territorial Seeds Squash, Orange Magic hybrid baby hubbard, 85 days, 2  3 lbs., semi-bush, GurneyÂs Squash, Pink Banana squash, 90 days, 12  16 lbs., compact bushes, Burpee Squash, Table Ace, acorn, 70 days, large semi-bush, high yield, GurneyÂs Strawberry, Tarpan (xAlpine), 85 days, 1.5"cerise flowers, tasty sm-med red fruit, runners, JohnnyÂs Select Tomatillo, Toma Verde, 60 days, Tomato, Ace Hybrid, more compact than most vines Tomato, Alaska/Aljaska, det., medium size bushy plant, cool tolerant Tomato, Amber Colored, det. 2" fruit Tomato, Andes, det. red long pepper shaped, 5"x2" meaty few seeds Tomato, Applause, 66 days, det. early, compact vine, 8-12 oz red, good flavor, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Azoychka, Tomato, Banana Legs, det., 4" long meaty Tomato, Belii Naliv, det. short indet. 42" plant, 2" round red fruit Tomato, Black Sea Man, good for mid-size containers, early, 12-16 oz. fruit Tomato, Box Car Willie Tomato, Burbank Slicing, det. 1915 Luther Burbank, drought tolerant, high amino acids, med. round red fruit Tomato, Bush, 62 days, det., 18" tall plant, med-lg size red tomatoes, drought tolerant, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Bush Beef Steak, 62 days, determinate, compact, prolific, 8 oz red fruit in clusters, Containerseeds.com Tomato, Bush Big Boy Hybrid, 71 days, determinate, Burpee Tomato, Bush Celebrity Tomato, Bush Champion Tomato, Bush Early Girl hybrid, (D) 65 days, 18" tall self supporting plant, large fruit 4" across, Burpee Tomato, Bush Goliath, 62 days, determinate, 3.5 tall, Containerseeds.com Tomato, Citron Compact, Tomato, Cream Sausage, det. paste tomato Tomato, CzechÂs Bush, determinate, Containerseeds.com Tomato, Dwarf Champion, 80 days, tree-type, compact rugose-leaf plants, 3-8 oz. mild, meaty, slicing tom, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Dwarf Champion #15, Dwarf Champion Improved, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Dwarf Stone(Livingstone), det. 1902, Victory Seeds Tomato, Early Annie, det. short heirloom, 3" meaty fruit good for canning, fruit sets all at once. Tomato, Early Wonder, det. Tomato, Elfin, grape tomatoes on smaller plants, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Ethiopia Roy Humbort, det. Tomato, Extreme Bush, det. 50 days, 12-20" tall bush, 3 oz. round red fruit, Victory Seeds Tomato, Fargo, det. Like yellow pear Tomato, Forme de Coeur, det. Mid-season, Tomato, Garden Pearl, cascades UK Tomato, Gold Nugget, yellow cherry, 56 days, compact plants, cold tolerant, JohnnyÂs Tomato, Golden Dwarf Champion, 90 days, rugose, tree-type, very productive, 3-5 oz, lemon yellow fruit, 1898, TGS Tomato, Glacier, 58 days, 30" tall, Containerseeds.com, Victory Seeds Tomato, Grushovka, det., 2.5 tall plants, pink egg shaped 3" fruit, good for canning, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Health Kick, 74 days, det plants 4 tall, 4-6 oz. fruit, plum shape, 50% more lycopene, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Husky Red, 68 days, mid-season, dwarf indet. 4 tall plants, 5-7 oz. red fruit, good flavor, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Indian Stripe, 85 days, indet., compact plant, very good flavor i.e.Cherokee Purple very productive, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Jubilee, 80 days, indet. short stiff stems, orange 8 oz. fruit not acidic, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Kaki Coing, det. orange paste Tomato, Kewalo, det. Hawaiian, 6-8 oz. round red Tomato, Kimberly, 1-2 oz. fruit, compact potato leaf plants Tomato, Lime Green Salad, det. small plants, 3-5 oz. fruits, tangy flavor Tomato, Lisa King, 75-80 days, det. short vines, 8-10 oz. red, old-fashioned flavor, crack, BER resistant, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Long Keeper, det. prolific 6 oz. fruits keeps 4 months @ 65 deg. 1979, or hang whole plant upside down to store fruit. Tomato, Long Season Peach Tomato, Manitoba, det. 66 days, 6.5 oz., cold tolerant, slicer, red, heavy yields, Territorial Tomato, Marglobe Tomato, Micro-Tom, 85 days, 5-8"tall, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Moskovich, det., 60 days, cold tolerant, rich taste 4-6 oz, red, JohnnyÂs Tomato, New Big Dwarf, 60 days, det., heirloom, 1915, 2 tall plants, 8-12 oz red fruit (can get to 1 lb.), Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, New Yorker, det. Tomato, Orange King, 85 days, semi-det., 1943, beautiful compact plant, 4-11 oz. fruit, mild but tangy. TGS Tomato, Orange Tree, 90 days, tree-type, compact plants, med size flattened orange globes, TGS Tomato, Oregon Spring, 58 days, compact plants, early, cold tolerant, nearly seedless med-lg red fruit, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Patio F1 Hybrid, 70 days, determinate, 24" tall, Containerseeds.com Tomato, Pik-Red VF Hybrid, 71 days, det., dwarf vines, container, 6-7 oz red fruit nearly solid interior, very productive TGS Tomato, Polar Baby, 60 days, very small plants, 2" red salad tomatoes, cold tolerant, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Polar Beauty, 63 days, det., short busy plants, sm-med oblate red tomatoes w/ full tomato flavor, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Polar Star, 65 days, det. compact plants, 3-4 oz. red fruit, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Polbig, 60 days, compact plants, red 6-8 oz. meaty fruit, high yield, uniform ripening time, JohnnyÂs Tomato, Polish Dwarf, 60 days, 24-30" plant (tree type), very productive 1-4 oz. red fruit Tomato, Principe Borghese, det. Tomato, Red Robin, 12", real tom flavor, Containerseeds.com Tomato, Red Rocket, 60 days, det., compact, bushy plant, 8-10 oz. red, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Roma Tomato, Roughwood Golden Plum, det. Tomato, Russian Red, det. (tree type), 75 days, 5 tall plant, small red fruit, great flavor, New Zealand 1943, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Rutgers, 75 days, det., delicious old-time flavor, 1920, 6-8 oz. red fruit, TGS Tomato, San Marzano, det. Tomato, Siberian, 57 days, indeterminate, very small plants, Containerseeds.com Tomato, Siletz, Tomato, Silvery Fir Tree, 58 days, 24", Containerseeds.com Tomato, Small Fry, red cherry tomato, compact vines, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, SophieÂs Choice, det. Tomato, Speckled Siberian, det. Tomato, Sprite, 60 days, short/small plants for small garden, red grape fruit Tomato, Sub Arctic Maxi, 62 days, dwarf vines, for cold climates, 2.5 oz red fruit good flavor, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Sugar Baby, 54 days, det., small productive plants, 1-2 oz. red fruit, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Sunbeam VFFA Hybrid, 70 days, det. compact plants, 10-12 oz red fruit, xlnt flavor/quality, productive, TGS Tomato, Sweet Baby Girl Tomato, Sweet Israeli Tomato, Tabletalk, 75 days, indet., compact bush plant, 1941, 4-16 oz. red fruit, crack resistant, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Tiny Tim, 60 days, 10"-18" tall, Containerseeds.com Tomato, Tomande VFFNT Hybrid, 68 days indet., compact plants, ribbed 6-7 oz. sweet red fruit, heavy yield, TGS Tomato, Tondino di Manduria, det. Tomato, Totem, dwarf, 70 days, small red tomatoes, Tomato Growers Supply Tomato, Tumbler, 50 days, cascading, cherry tom, Containerseeds.com Tomato, Viktorina, det. Tomato, Yellow River, det. Tomato, Window Box Roma, determinate, 12"-15" tall, Containerseeds.com Tomato, Yellow Canary Hybrid, 12" tall, Red Robin sibling, trails, Containerseeds.com Tomato, Zhefin Short, det. Watermelon, Bush Sugar Baby, 80 days, 3.5 vines yields 2 12 lbs. melons, Heirloom, Burpee Watermelon, Yellow Doll, 65 days, 5 -8 lbs. fruit, very productive, semi-compact vines, Nichols Garden Seeds

I've been going back and forth with my order of prime ark freedom. These berries sure sound good. But they're sold out now; next year. I did get vintage, natanala, Caroline, Anne, fall gold, and heritage. Even though I'm in zone 10, you'd think it was zone 7. Vintage just sprouted, Caroline, fall gold, and heritage came up too. Barely any growth on any of them, but fall gold is setting berries. Still waiting for natanala and anne to sprout. If these don't sprout I will buy some new ones next year, the roots were alive when I received them. My heritage were stolen from the community garden. I grew it last year and I really like it. If Caroline or vintage are as productive as heritage I may forego It. I only get the fall crop, but heritage just keeps pushing out berries for months. The taste is just ok for fresh eating from my container garden, Thats why I decided to try planting in the community garden. Still I prefer volume to flavor. Flavor changes every year, but my belly fills on volume. I'm not as good at berries as everyone else on here is. My boysenberry plant looks like a forest in the pot. Hope I get berries this year. Marion had one long cane from last year, it just put out a new cane. Last year I didn't know about pinching so no laterals. Think I will pinch the new cane when it gets a foot tall. They haven't fruited yet. The raspberries grow at a mannered pace that's easy to control. Blackberries on the otherhand seem to leap out of their pots searching for other pots to conquer. So for me blackberry must be grown in a pot near concrete so it can't excape to the wildlife. Fall gold bud in full shade Emerald blueberry shading peas, clover, and beans. Lettuce is going to seed. Boysenberry and beans, varigated solomens seal in the bottom of the pot. The fall gold is growing behind the chard leaf and gets very little sun. The beans have their own trellis in the pot next to the boysenberry but next thing I knew they decided that the preferred the trellis on the boysenberry pot. Now they're climbing in the hanging basket, and then to the moon. Marion berry is wrapped around the window first-time growing blackberry so I didn't pinch,it just has two canes. I just pinched them and got a small amount of branching. Would love to have a twenty foot long thorny branched cane. Well its not the prettiest but I'm eating good. Sunshine blue, and a volenteer tomato,please don't mind my spider webs, that's my only pest control besides ladybugs. I try to keep them in check, but on a rooftop berry garden is a fly eaters paradise, so they keep coming back. Spider mites are bad right now, but they're going for beans, sunflowers and weeds. Those plants all grown so fast who cares. The white flies came and bite the pineapple weed, it was instant death. They've learn to avoid the epazote but since pineapple weed is a native and looks just like pigs lettuce it was a killing field millions of dead white flies. FYI that tomato plant would be full of tomatoes if the local mammals weren't swiping them. I managed to get two amish paste because they filled up on every one of my super sweet pomegranates and sun ripened cherry tomatoes and then snubbed their noses at a bland paste tomato. These little blueberry seedlings are hidden somewhere in that food forest. Sharp, misty, and the ?. Only three inches tall, misty lost all her leaves but everyone else is growing well. Gotta get some peat and surround those tiny little roots. I think misty wants more sun, but at two inches in overcast may, it ain't going to happen. If she were a foot tall it would be better. June gloom is coming so I won't have sun until July. Hang in there Misty!

Despite the popularity of fescue, in particular the Marathon family of dwarf fescues, I think it is irresponsible to put a turf more at home in the north, into a southern situation. This is especially important in the light of California not having the most reliable water supply. The UCR turf tests said that fescue worked as well as others, but I can't help but think something was wrong with that. Probably the easiest turf to maintain in full sunlight would be UC Verde. Bermuda would work but it is not the easiest to maintain, because it needs fertilizer every 6 to 8 weeks to remain green, and it can get weedy if it goes unmowed for a few weeks. If you have shady areas, then St Augustine is the only choice for grass although there are other ground covers that can do well in the south. Asiatic jasmine is popular around San Antonio. My current location in Bandera has far too many deer running around to grow jasmine. UC Verde comes in plugs, but they establish quickly. You probably don't need as many plugs as they recommend since...they spread quickly. That would depend on your very specific timing. One of your neighbors in Rialto is currently on this forum. He's got bermuda sod in his back yard. Keep us informed on what you pick and how it's doing. There seem to be more questions about UC Verde, so if you go that direction, some pictures would be nice to see.