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Year Round Veges in Southern California

16 years ago

Hello, my name is Jason from Pasadena. New member to Gardenweb.com. In the process of installing and updating a drip irrigation system for the flower beds. Built a couple of 4'x4'12" boxes for veges.

The goal is to have year round vegetable. Is it possible in Pasadena?

Any suggestions for fall/winter vegetables? So far, Orach, Mache, bok choy, gai lan, and rattlesnake pole beans were suggested. I'll have to research these plants.

Suggestions? Thanks!

Comments (20)

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Great. Love the brassicas and will try growing shallots as well. Thank you.

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  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The rule of thumb for cool-season planting (fall into spring): root and leaf vegetables, flower bud vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower) and peas (and the related fava beans).

    You've got a very interesting list. I'm sure you'll have a hard time with the rattlesnake pole beans, though, during cool weather.

    And of course you can have a "year-round vegetable" garden in Pasadena. And not just two seasons (cool and warm). In Pasadena, you'll find that there's something you can plant or harvest 365 days of the year.

    Joe

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Carrots, radishes, lettuce and spinach do great in the cool season. You could probably grow potatoes as well.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi Jason, welcome.
    I just planted sugar snap and snow peas, radishes, red and green lettuce, and some chamomile seeds. Next month I'll plant cabbage and broccoli. Last year I planted golden beets and carrots, but they need a bit more water than I am willing to give, so not this year.

    In the spring I look forward to cucumbers. I LOVE the Japanese and Armenian cucumbers- they are so sweet, like melons.

    Renee

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I have a garden in Altadena and one in LA, we plant and harvest all year long. Another vegetable that has not been mentioned is chard, it does well all year and you can get it in different colors, beautiful to look at too (and tasty). The brassicas do great foe 3 seasons and suffer in the summer. Some years we keep them alive (they are perennials) but this year I had too much of a harlequin beetle infestation so I took them out. Just planted some chick peas, and I have corn and amaranth growing that I planted recently (second crop of corn this year). I just love the weather here, we are so lucky.

    Don't forget the lettuces and other salad greens! now is a goot time to sow these, and as others have mentioned carrots, beets and radishes are good to plant now.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks everyone with all the suggestions. Will try brussel sprouts, peas,some kind of salad green, and shallots.

    Has anyone had success with hothouse tomatos? I was thinking of using plastic hoops over a 4x4 box, covering the box with plastic. Or is this necessary in Pasadena? (just south of Eaton Canyon)
    Thanks in advance.
    Jason

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    How timely! I just put in my second raised bed this week; I was so pleased with the results of the first (and that was only back to July. Zukes for years, and melons that probably won't see full maturity). I'm sowing as we speak, but chick peas -- now there's a thought.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Great to have local folks for sharing ideas!

    Yes, this will be my first attempt growing chick peas, but why not? I really like them and I use legumes to fix the nitrogen in my soil, since I am trying to use organic methods. Chick peas are a cool weather crop so I hope it works out. I tried it last year with regular beans but it got too cold for them.

    I have regular beans as my cover crop in my brassica beds, I will plant brassicas a lot later (maybe November or December) hopefully my pests will be dormant then and I will have some nice green beans to either eat, freeze or can.

    I planted melons in July too (companion planting with okra), they went up really fast and we already ate some of the little ice box watermelons. Let's hope the rest of the melons ripen for us!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Great. Altadena/Pasadena growers. Yeah, nitrogen fixation, I remember that from school. We really like chick peas in our salads.

    Anyone have experience with hothouse tomatos? Or, year round tomatos, if there is such a thing in Altadena/Pasadena.

    Thanks! Jason

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Jason,

    What we are doing this year, and planning for next year (spring), is to use both the early season tomatoes and the late season tomatoes. We exaggerated the lateness (we sprouted them really late) but is seems to be working. Now we are just starting to enjoy sprite tomatoes (late grape type determinate tomato), we have some Hungarian pink still not flowering and same with some Bulgarian tomatoes. I got seeds from the most appealing late harvest types I could find. We hope they will flower soon, fruit and ripen by Nov-Dec. We did the same thing a couple of years ago and had tomatoes until December.

    Growing inside would be no advantage for us since we have no heating in any of the places, so temperature outside is the same as temperature inside...but I do plan on speeding things up a bit with the seedlings (early harvest) in a little makeshift green house we got, but it is only for seedlings, too small for the whole vines.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Oh, yes! As you can see from the previous responses it is very possible to be eating from your garden all year long.

    I am just now planting fava beans and replanted zucchini with the hope of getting in a crop before we get a frost. Also time for parsley and all types of lettuce

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  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi Jason,
    There is a professional edible landscape company, Vegetare and the owner, Tony Kienitz, lives and gardens in Pasadena. He sometimes gives organic gardening/cooking classes at Descanso Gardens in La Canada. He wrote a book I highly recommend on gardening, The Year I Ate My Yard. I think you will enjoy it and learn much from it.

    I am in Granada Hills and I garden all year round - I just put in snap peas and plan to grow chard, several lettuces, mustard, broccoli, cauliflower, leeks, carrots, beets, kale and the like. You can grow edible flowers too, calendula, nasturtiums, violas like the cool weather. Cool season tomatoes are in nurseries now with names like Siletz, Oregon Spring, Early Girl and I've had good success with Champion.

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  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I ADORE "The Year I Ate My Yard"! Such a good book. Planting brassicas/cabbages/brussell sprouts now. Should harvest some more raspberries soon.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I just put in 4 cabbage plants. Today will be blistering hot, so they are shaded by cardboard but look pretty good so far. Don't know if slugs will be a problem or not, but I'll keep an eye out for them.

    I'll also put in some carrots.

    How do you start chard? Seeds or seelings?

    I need suggestions for vegetables which don't take much space as my garden is tiny.

    Recently at Armstrongs I saw a blueberry bush in the vegetable section. Really? We can grow real blueberries in our So CA zones?

    Great thread, very helpful.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Greenwich; wow, thank you for the list of cool season tomatoes. BTW, do you need a plastic tent during the cool season for these tomatoes?

    Will try brussel sprouts and salad lettuce, either Orach or Mache. Anyone heard of these?
    Will look into "The Year I Ate My Yard" Good title.

    I'm running a little late on planting, will be filling in my new planter boxes this weekend.

    Thanks for the thread, everyone.
    Jason

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you cabrita; will look for Hungarian reds and Bulgarian varieties of tomatoes.

    Jason

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Here is my list of smaller veggies (for Socks12345) - I add to it from time to time as I come across new (to me) small veggies. I haven't tried 1/10 of these so you're on your own to experiment. Vertical gardening on a trellis, or strawberry tower/tube saves space too.

    I also look for short season, extra-early or early varieties to free up garden space sooner so I can plant more.

    Asterisks denote cool season crops, in general root and leaf crops. I didn't put asterisks on the cool tolerant tomatoes though but you can Google it and find more info.

    Amaranth, Polish, OP 40 days, smaller than other culinary amaranth, deep burgundy, Nichols
    Amaranth, Tender Leaf, dwarf developed in Taiwan, 3-8" tall, light green leaves, Evergreen
    Amaranth, Tiger Eye, 2-3 tall if harvested regularly

    Basil, Genovese Compact Improved, 74 days, best for containers, 18" JohnnyÂs Selected
    Basil, Spicy Globe, compact, 6" high x 12" across, Territorial
    Basil, Finissimo Verde a Palla, 10" in diameter, very small foliage, Territorial

    *Beans, runner, Hestia
    *Beans, runner, Dwarf Bees, 45 days, 18"-24" no trellis, scarlet, Containerseeds.com, Underwood Gardens
    *Beans, runner, Pickwick, UK
    Beans, bush snap, Masai, 47 days, 12" plants, container, 4" pods, outstanding flavor/texture, Cornell website
    Beans, bush snap, Venture, 55 days, Blue Lake type, high yields, crop ripens all at once, 22-34" plant, Territorial
    Beans, pole snap, Emerite, 53-64 days, 6-7Â tall
    Beans, lima, Incan Giant @ Redwood City Seed Co.
    Bean, fava, Negreta, 70 days, 9-10" pods, 6-7 green seeds, dry purple, Territorial

    Beets
    Beets, Cylindra, 45-80 days, 6-8" roots, Victory Seeds, Containerseeds.com
    Beets, Forono, 55 days, 5"x 2", sweeter, JohnnyÂs Select

    Blueberry, Sunshine Blue
    Blueberry, Top Hat

    *Bok Choi, Bonsai, baby pac choi, 40 days, 6", JohnnyÂs
    Bok Choi, All Seasons, hybrid dwarf, Evergreen
    Bok Choi, Brisk Green, 50 days, 6-8" spoon leaves, non-heading, compact, Pinetree
    Bok Choi x Tatsoi, Da Cheong Chae, 50 days, space 6", JohnnyÂs Select
    Bok Choi, Dwarf Choi Sum/Short White Stalk, 3-8", Evergreen
    Bok Choi, Dwarf, 42 days, 4" tall, Kitazawa
    Bok Choi, Extra Dwarf, 30 days, 2" tall, Baker Creek, Kitazawa
    Bok Choi, Green Baby, 30 days, dwarf 6" heads, Containerseeds, Evergreen
    Bok Choi, Green Boy, heat tolerant, dwarf, Evergreen
    Bok Choi, Green Fortune, 45 days, 6-8" mini-heads, ReneeÂs
    Bok Choi, Long Green Petiole, 21-28 days, Evergreen
    Bok Choi, Medium, 45 days, 6" tall, Kitazawa
    Bok Choi, Mei Qing Choi, 35-45 days, hybrid dwarf, JohnnyÂs, Stokes
    Bok Choi, Riki Baby, 44-55 days, 6" tall, heat tolerant, John Scheepers
    Bok Choi, Shanghai Green Choi, Nichols, Baker Creek
    Bok Choi, Short Green Petiole, hybrid dwarf, Evergreen
    Bok Choi, Summer Boy, heat resistant, dwarf, Evergreen
    Bok Choi, Toy Choi Pac Choi hybrid, 35 days, 4 Â 5" miniature, container, Nichols
    Bok Choi, Tropic Wonder, hybrid dwarf, Evergreen
    Bok Choi (similar crop), Extra Dwarf Choi Sum, 21-28 days, Containerseeds, Evergreen

    *Broccoli, Fiesta, 65 days, 6 -7" heads, compact plants, Territorial Seeds
    Broccoli, Munchkin, OP 60 days, 12" plants 4" heads, side shoots, Nichols Garden Seeds
    Broccoli, Small Miracle, 56 days, 12" plant 6-8" heads, moderate side shoots, Territorial

    *Brussels Sprouts, Long Island Improved, 95 days, compact 2Â tall, Containerseeds.com
    Brussels Sprouts, Vancouver, 90-100 days, 18"-24" tall, Containerseeds.com

    *Cabbage, Arrowhead II, 66 days, pointed mini, JohhnyÂs Select
    Cabbage, Greyhound, 64-73 days, pointed, dwarf 2-3#, xlnt mild flavor, Bountiful Gardens
    Cabbage, Gonzales, 55 Â 60 days, 2-3 lb. heads, softball size, Territorial Seeds
    Cabbage, Early Jersey Wakefield, OP Heirloom, 65 days, pointed 2-3 lbs. compact, Nichols Garden Seeds, Victory Seeds
    Cabbage, Golden Acre, 64 days, 5-7", 3-4 lbs, not longstanding, yellows resistant, Victory Seeds
    Cabbage, Parel, 50 days, 1.5 lbs, 6" heads, holds 3 weeks, Territorial Seeds
    Cabbage, savoy, Samantha, 85 days, small pointed heads, JohnnyÂs Select
    Cabbage, red, Super Red 80, 73 days, medium, peppery superior flavor, plant close for single serving size, JohnnyÂs
    Cabbage, red, Red Express, 63 days, medium, compact 2-4 lbs., JohnnyÂs

    *Cauliflower, Early Dawn
    Cauliflower, Snowball, 52-70 days, 6-7" snow white heads, Bountiful Gardens

    Carrot, Amsterdam 2 Maxi, UK
    Carrot, Baby Babette, 70 days, harvest at 3-4"
    Carrot, Baby Sweet, 49 days
    Carrot, Chantenay #1 & Red Cored, 71 days, tapered 5" roots, France 1830s,Victory Seeds
    Carrot, Chantilly, 72 days, 5-6" dark orange roots
    Carrot, Early Market, 68 days, short blunt 2-6" roots, early season, Bountiful Gardens
    Carrot, Gold King, 70 days, stump 6", reddish orange, very sweet, Victory Seeds
    Carrot, Kinko, 52 days, 4" roots, Containerseeds.com, JohnnyÂs Select
    Carrot, Kurota Chantenay, 70 days, 5-8", best as fall crop, good keeper, heavy soils
    Carrot, Little Finger, 60-65 days, Burpee, Victory Seeds
    Carrot, Man Thumb, 60-70 days, 1-2" bright orange, no peeling, containers
    Carrot, Mini Sweet, 60 days, 4", early Japanese, smooth skin, orange-red
    Carrot, Nantes Coreless, 65-75 days, 6-8" nearly coreless
    Carrot, Nantes Improved, 62 days, 6", nearly coreless, orange-red, Victory Seeds
    Carrot, Nantes Scarlet, 68 days, outstanding flavor, 4-5", Victory Seeds
    Carrot, New Kuroda, 110 days, sub-tropical, 6" deep orange, sweet
    Carrot, Oxheart, 90 days, Containerseeds.com, Seeds of Change (best strain) carroty
    Carrot, Parabel, 60-65 days, 1-1.5" round roots, early season, very juicy, Bountiful Gardens
    Carrot, Pariser Market 4, 55-60 days, small round roots, early specialty
    Carrot, Parmex, 65 days, Thompson & Morgan
    Carrot, Resistafly, 70 days, harvest as baby 4" roots
    Carrot, Royal Chantenay Supreme, 58-70 days, early, 5-7"
    Carrot, Shin Kuroda, 75 days, 5-7" x 3" Japanese type
    Carrot, Thumbelina, OP 60 days, AAS winner, round, Nichols Garden Seeds, Victory Seeds
    Carrot, Tonda di Parigi, 65 days, early round Parisian heirloom, 1.5"
    Carrot, Yaya, 56 days, 6" blunt tip, baby or full size flavor, excellent keeper, can get up to 1 lb. 4" across top

    Chard, Bionda di Lyon, 25 days baby, pale green w/white petioles, no fiber very tender, mild flavor, JohnnyÂs
    Chard, Bright Lights, 50-60 days, 20" plants
    Chard, Erbette, 30-55, Italian continual harvest, resprouts leaves, Bountiful Gardens
    Chard, Silverado, 55-65 days, 14-16" plants, deeply savoyed leaves, slow to bolt, Stokes, Veseys

    Citrus, Improved Meyer Lemon

    Collards, Flash, 78 days, 18" plants, smooth flat leaves, slow to bolt, JohnnyÂs, Stokes
    Collards, Top Bunch, 70 days, 18" plants, hybrid, fast growing, lightly savoyed leaves, resists bolting, top
    performer, good yields, good flavor, JohnnyÂs, Stokes

    Corn, Blue Jade, 70-80 days, 3Â tall, 3-6 ears, Containerseeds.com, Amazon
    Corn, Chires Baby, 75-90 days, 4-5Â tall, 3-5 stalks, (40) tiny ears per plant.
    Corn, Golden Bantam, OP heirloom, 75-85 days, 5-6Â tall, Containerseeds.com, Victory Seeds, Underwood Gardens (12 row)
    Corn, Hooker's Sweet Indian Corn, white with yellow at milk stage, dries purple-black 6" ears, 3-4Â, SSE
    Corn, Lady Finger, short plants, 6-7" ears
    Corn, Orchard Baby, 65 days, 4-5Â, (2) 5-6" yellow, Victory Seeds
    Corn, Red Strawberry Popcorn, 115 days, 4Â, Victory Seeds
    Corn, Sunshine (x Golden Bantam), 75 days 5.5Â, 12 row 6-8" yellow, rare, Victory Seeds
    Corn, Tom Thumb, 85 days, yellow popcorn, dwarf 3 ½ tall, JohnnyÂs

    Cucumber, Bush Champion, 55 days, huge fruits, Burpee
    Cucumber, pickling, Bush Pickle Hybrid, 45 days, bush, container culture Shumway Seeds
    Cucumber, Cool Breeze, cornichons, 5Â vines, Containerseeds.com
    Cucumber, pickling, Cross Country, 51 days, semi-bush, dense planting-high yield Shumway Seeds
    Cucumber, slicing, Fanfare, 52 days, semi-bush extra dwarf (1/2 size of normal vines) Shumway Seeds
    Cucumber, Lemon, 70 days, 3 -4Â semi-bush vines, Territorial Seeds, Nichols
    Cucumber, Little Leaf, 57 days, compact multibranching vine, leaves 50% smaller,medium size fruit, yield well under stress, JohnnyÂs
    Cucumber, Miniature White, 50-55 days, vines 3Â, Containerseeds.com
    Cucumber, Picklebush, 52 days, 2Â vines, Burpee, high customer ratings
    Cucumber, Salad Bush hybrid, 57 days, AAS winner, 8" fruit, 24" vine/bush, Nichols
    Cucumber, Saladbush hybrid, 57 days, tiny plants, 2Â-3Â vines, Burpee
    Cucumber, Spacemaster, 60 days, 3Â diam bush, Containerseeds.com

    Eggplant, Bambino, 52 days, 12" plant, 1.5" diameter fruits, full flavor, Nichols
    Eggplant, Bride, 75 days, 7 Â 8" fruit, compact plants, Territorial Seeds
    Eggplant, Caliope, 64 days, Containerseeds.com
    Eggplant, Dusky, 65-70 days, 3-5" fruits, extremely productive, compact plants, Nichols
    Eggplant, Fairy Tale, 50 days, 24" plant, AAS winner, Nichols, Park Seeds
    Eggplant, Hansel, 70 days, 2 Â 10" fruits, compact for container culture, AAS winner,Territorial Seeds

    *Endive, Rhodos, 65 days, frise, tightly massed, compact plant, Territorial

    *Kale, Dwarf Blue Curled Scotch, OP 55 days, 15" plants 24" spread, Nichols, Victory Seeds
    Kale, Dwarf Siberian Improved, 65 days, 15" blue frilled leaves, Victory Seeds
    Kale, Red Chidori, 50 days, green outer, bright red center, frilly leaves, Xtra compact, Territorial Seeds
    Kale, dinosaur, Toscano, 30 days baby size, very dark blistered leaves, JohnnyÂs Select

    *Kohlrabi, Eder, extra early, 38 days, JohnnyÂs

    *Leeks
    Leek, Carantan, 100 days, Victory Seeds

    *Lettuce, Anuenue, 50 days, like a small iceberg, heat tolerant, JohnnyÂs
    Lettuce, butterhead, Australe, 49 days, mini or full size, bolts fast, JohnnyÂs Select
    Lettuce, Baby Oakleaf, 47 days, miniheads, JohnnyÂs
    Lettuce, butterhead/Romaine, Baby Star, 65 days, 5" tall, Nichols, very tasty
    Lettuce, Cherokee, 48 days, very dark red, slow to bolt, JohnnyÂs
    Lettuce, Crisphead, OP 70 days, compact, slow bolt, Nichols
    Lettuce, Romaine, Claremont, 46 days, 9" tall space 6", JohnnyÂs Select
    Lettuce, butterhead, Garden Babies, 53-73 days, 5-6" heads, container, slow to bolt, Renees
    Lettuce, oakleaf, Ferrari, 44 days, reddish, compact heads, JohnnyÂs Select
    Lettuce, Green Deer Tongue, 50 days, 7 Â 8" pinwheel, Territorial Seeds
    Lettuce, Jamai, 45 days, dark red, compact, mild not bitter, JohhnyÂs Select
    Lettuce, Romaine, Little Gem Fruit, 70 days, 6-8" heads, semi-savoyed, Containerseeds, John Scheepers, Vesey
    Lettuce, Romaine, Little Gem, 50-70 days, Containerseeds.com, hardy.
    Lettuce, red Romaine, Little Leprechaun, 52 days, Containerseeds.com
    Lettuce, Matina, OP 53-73 days, small individual butterhead, Nichols Garden Seeds
    Lettuce, Nevada, 48 days, greenleaf, JohnnyÂs Select
    Lettuce, Oscarde, 45 days, lobed cherry red leaves, JohnnyÂs
    Lettuce, Romaine, Petit Rouge, 48 days, container culture, Territorial Seeds
    Lettuce, Romaine, Rubens Baby, 50-60 days, dwarf, harvest 6-8", red outer leaves, John Scheepers
    Lettuce, Tom Thumb, OP 65 days Heirloom, extra small 3-4" ball, Nichols, best tasting butterhead!
    Lettuce, Romaine, Sucrine, 60 days, very compact, Territorial Seeds
    Lettuce, butterhead, Sweet Red, 54 days, compact 7" heads, Burpee
    Lettuce, Romaine, Winter Density, 8" compact, Territorial Seeds

    Melon, casaba, Amy, 5Â vines, Park Seeds
    Melon, cantaloupe, Honey Bun hybrid, 73 days, bush, 5" fruit, yield 3 Â 4 fruits per vine, Burpee
    Melon, cantaloupe, Fastbreak, 69 days, 4-5 lbs, 6 per plant, Territorial
    Melon, cantaloupe, GurneyÂs Giant Hybrid Cantaloupe, 80 days, compact vines, 18 lbs. 4-5 fruits
    Melon, Minnesota Midget, 70 days, early, very compact vines, 1 lb fruit, 1948, slips and grows in tubs.

    Mustard, mizuna, Waido, 21 days baby, wider less serrated leaves, more flavor, JohnnyÂs Select

    Onion, bunching, Nabechan, 65 days, sweet complex flavor cooked, JohnnyÂs Select
    Onion, Pearl Drop, 68 days, mini white, JohnnyÂs Selected
    Onion, Purplette, 60 days, bunching or golfball size, JohnnyÂs Selected
    Onion, Snow Baby,

    *Parsley, Extra Curled Dwarf, compact 10-12" plant, Burpee
    Parsley, Forest Green, 75 days, 10-12" double/triple curled leaves, heat tolerant, JohnnyÂs, Nichols
    Parsley, Prezzemolo Gigante dÂItalia, 12" plants, flat dark green leaves, Pinetree
    Parsley, Sweet Curly, 10-12" plants, ReneeÂs

    *Peas, Little Marvel, OP Heirloom 1908, 62 days, 16"-18" tall, Containerseeds.com
    Peas, Premium, 51 days, 30" tall, 7-8 very sweet medium peas, extra early, JohnnyÂs Select
    Peas, snow & snap, Snow Sweet, 60 days, dual use, stringless, 24" vine no support, JohnnyÂs
    Peas, Tom Thumb, OP Heirloom 1800, 50-55 days, 8"-12" edible shoots, leaves, flowers
    Peas, Snap, Sugar Ann, 52 days, 25" tall, best xtra-early short vined pea, AAS winner Containerseeds.com, JohnnyÂs Select
    Peas, Snap, Sugar Sprint, 60 days, 2Â tall, Containerseeds.com
    Peas, Snow, Dwarf Gray Sugar, OP Heirloom 1892, 55-60 days, 2Â-3Â, JohhnyÂs Select
    Peas, snow, Little Sweetie, 60 days, 16" vine, 2.5" pods, heat tolerant, Stokes
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    Pumpkin, Cheyenne Bush, 80-90 days, 5-8 lb. fruit, Containerseeds.com
    Pumpkin, Jack of All Trades, 90 days, 9-12 lbs, round, semi-bush vines, Nichols
    Pumpkin, Magic Lantern, 95 days, 16 Â 24 lbs., compact vines, Territorial Seeds
    Pumpkin, Racer, 85 days, 12-16 lbs, green stem, 2-3 per plant, semi-bush vines, JohnnyÂs
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    Autumn Cup, 95 days, 2.5 lbs., semi-bush Shumway Seeds
    Bon Bon 81 days, 4 lbs., semi-bush, AAS award Shumway Seeds
    Discus Bush Buttercup, 90 days, 3 lbs., bush 3Â across, yield 4, Territorial Seed
    Orange Cutie 95 days, 1.7 lb, semi-bush, fantastic fruit count Shumway Seeds

    Butternut:
    Atlas 90 days, early, 4 lbs., short vine, Shumway Seeds
    Butterbush, 75 days, 4Â vines, 1.5 lbs, yield 4 Â 5 fruits per vine, Burpee
    Early Butternut Squash, 85 days, AAS winner, medium size fruit, compact plant, Territorial Seeds

    Misc.:
    Squash, acorn, Honey Bear, Squash, Bush Table King, acorn, 85 days, more compact than BTQ, 2 lbs. 5 Â 8 yield, Victory Seeds, AAS award winner 1974
    Squash, Bush Table Queen, acorn, 80 days, 3Â across bush, prolific, 1948, Burpee
    Squash, Carnival, 95 days, semi-bush, 1.5 X larger than Sweet Dumpling, inferior flavor, JohnnyÂs Selected Seeds
    Squash, Cornell Bush Delicata, 100 days, 6", semi-bush, stores 4 months
    Squash, Early Acorn hybrid acorn, 75 days, yields 5 large fruits, Burpee
    Squash, Gold Nugget squash, 85 days, 1.5 lbs, yield 10, bush 3 - 4Â across, Territorial Seed
    Squash, spaghetti, Hasta la Pasta, 73 days, compact vines, orange flesh, Burpee
    Squash, Mesa Queen, acorn squash, 70 days, 3 -4 lbs, semi-bush, great yield, 9 per plant, Territorial Seeds
    Squash, Orange Magic hybrid baby hubbard, 85 days, 2 Â 3 lbs., semi-bush, GurneyÂs
    Squash, Pink Banana squash, 90 days, 12 Â 16 lbs., compact bushes, Burpee
    Squash, Table Ace, acorn, 70 days, large semi-bush, high yield, GurneyÂs

    Strawberry, Tarpan (xAlpine), 85 days, 1.5"cerise flowers, tasty sm-med red fruit, runners, JohnnyÂs Select

    Tomatillo, Toma Verde, 60 days,

    Tomato, Ace Hybrid, more compact than most vines
    Tomato, Alaska/Aljaska, det., medium size bushy plant, cool tolerant
    Tomato, Amber Colored, det. 2" fruit
    Tomato, Andes, det. red long pepper shaped, 5"x2" meaty few seeds
    Tomato, Applause, 66 days, det. early, compact vine, 8-12 oz red, good flavor, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Azoychka,
    Tomato, Banana Legs, det., 4" long meaty
    Tomato, Belii Naliv, det. short indet. 42" plant, 2" round red fruit
    Tomato, Black Sea Man, good for mid-size containers, early, 12-16 oz. fruit
    Tomato, Box Car Willie
    Tomato, Burbank Slicing, det. 1915 Luther Burbank, drought tolerant, high amino acids, med. round red fruit
    Tomato, Bush, 62 days, det., 18" tall plant, med-lg size red tomatoes, drought tolerant, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Bush Beef Steak, 62 days, determinate, compact, prolific, 8 oz red fruit in clusters, Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Bush Big Boy Hybrid, 71 days, determinate, Burpee
    Tomato, Bush Celebrity
    Tomato, Bush Champion
    Tomato, Bush Early Girl hybrid, (D) 65 days, 18" tall self supporting plant, large fruit 4" across, Burpee
    Tomato, Bush Goliath, 62 days, determinate, 3.5Â tall, Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Citron Compact,
    Tomato, Cream Sausage, det. paste tomato
    Tomato, CzechÂs Bush, determinate, Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Dwarf Champion, 80 days, tree-type, compact rugose-leaf plants, 3-8 oz. mild, meaty, slicing tom, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Dwarf Champion #15, Dwarf Champion Improved, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Dwarf Stone(Livingstone), det. 1902, Victory Seeds
    Tomato, Early Annie, det. short heirloom, 3" meaty fruit good for canning, fruit sets all at once.
    Tomato, Early Wonder, det.
    Tomato, Elfin, grape tomatoes on smaller plants, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Ethiopia Roy Humbort, det.
    Tomato, Extreme Bush, det. 50 days, 12-20" tall bush, 3 oz. round red fruit, Victory Seeds
    Tomato, Fargo, det. Like yellow pear
    Tomato, Forme de Coeur, det. Mid-season,
    Tomato, Garden Pearl, cascades UK
    Tomato, Gold Nugget, yellow cherry, 56 days, compact plants, cold tolerant, JohnnyÂs
    Tomato, Golden Dwarf Champion, 90 days, rugose, tree-type, very productive, 3-5 oz, lemon yellow fruit, 1898, TGS
    Tomato, Glacier, 58 days, 30" tall, Containerseeds.com, Victory Seeds
    Tomato, Grushovka, det., 2.5Â tall plants, pink egg shaped 3" fruit, good for canning, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Health Kick, 74 days, det plants 4Â tall, 4-6 oz. fruit, plum shape, 50% more lycopene, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Husky Red, 68 days, mid-season, dwarf indet. 4Â tall plants, 5-7 oz. red fruit, good flavor, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Indian Stripe, 85 days, indet., compact plant, very good flavor i.e.Cherokee Purple very productive, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Jubilee, 80 days, indet. short stiff stems, orange 8 oz. fruit not acidic, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Kaki Coing, det. orange paste
    Tomato, Kewalo, det. Hawaiian, 6-8 oz. round red
    Tomato, Kimberly, 1-2 oz. fruit, compact potato leaf plants
    Tomato, Lime Green Salad, det. small plants, 3-5 oz. fruits, tangy flavor
    Tomato, Lisa King, 75-80 days, det. short vines, 8-10 oz. red, old-fashioned flavor, crack, BER resistant, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Long Keeper, det. prolific 6 oz. fruits keeps 4 months @ 65 deg. 1979, or hang whole plant upside down to store fruit.
    Tomato, Long Season Peach
    Tomato, Manitoba, det. 66 days, 6.5 oz., cold tolerant, slicer, red, heavy yields, Territorial
    Tomato, Marglobe
    Tomato, Micro-Tom, 85 days, 5-8"tall, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Moskovich, det., 60 days, cold tolerant, rich taste 4-6 oz, red, JohnnyÂs
    Tomato, New Big Dwarf, 60 days, det., heirloom, 1915, 2Â tall plants, 8-12 oz red fruit (can get to 1 lb.), Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, New Yorker, det.
    Tomato, Orange King, 85 days, semi-det., 1943, beautiful compact plant, 4-11 oz. fruit, mild but tangy. TGS
    Tomato, Orange Tree, 90 days, tree-type, compact plants, med size flattened orange globes, TGS
    Tomato, Oregon Spring, 58 days, compact plants, early, cold tolerant, nearly seedless med-lg red fruit, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Patio F1 Hybrid, 70 days, determinate, 24" tall, Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Pik-Red VF Hybrid, 71 days, det., dwarf vines, container, 6-7 oz red fruit nearly solid interior, very productive TGS
    Tomato, Polar Baby, 60 days, very small plants, 2" red salad tomatoes, cold tolerant, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Polar Beauty, 63 days, det., short busy plants, sm-med oblate red tomatoes w/ full tomato flavor, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Polar Star, 65 days, det. compact plants, 3-4 oz. red fruit, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Polbig, 60 days, compact plants, red 6-8 oz. meaty fruit, high yield, uniform ripening time, JohnnyÂs
    Tomato, Polish Dwarf, 60 days, 24-30" plant (tree type), very productive 1-4 oz. red fruit
    Tomato, Principe Borghese, det.
    Tomato, Red Robin, 12", real tom flavor, Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Red Rocket, 60 days, det., compact, bushy plant, 8-10 oz. red, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Roma
    Tomato, Roughwood Golden Plum, det.
    Tomato, Russian Red, det. (tree type), 75 days, 5Â tall plant, small red fruit, great flavor, New Zealand 1943, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Rutgers, 75 days, det., delicious old-time flavor, 1920, 6-8 oz. red fruit, TGS
    Tomato, San Marzano, det.
    Tomato, Siberian, 57 days, indeterminate, very small plants, Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Siletz,
    Tomato, Silvery Fir Tree, 58 days, 24", Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Small Fry, red cherry tomato, compact vines, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, SophieÂs Choice, det.
    Tomato, Speckled Siberian, det.
    Tomato, Sprite, 60 days, short/small plants for small garden, red grape fruit
    Tomato, Sub Arctic Maxi, 62 days, dwarf vines, for cold climates, 2.5 oz red fruit good flavor, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Sugar Baby, 54 days, det., small productive plants, 1-2 oz. red fruit, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Sunbeam VFFA Hybrid, 70 days, det. compact plants, 10-12 oz red fruit, xlnt flavor/quality, productive, TGS
    Tomato, Sweet Baby Girl
    Tomato, Sweet Israeli
    Tomato, Tabletalk, 75 days, indet., compact bush plant, 1941, 4-16 oz. red fruit, crack resistant, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Tiny Tim, 60 days, 10"-18" tall, Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Tomande VFFNT Hybrid, 68 days indet., compact plants, ribbed 6-7 oz. sweet red fruit, heavy yield, TGS
    Tomato, Tondino di Manduria, det.
    Tomato, Totem, dwarf, 70 days, small red tomatoes, Tomato Growers Supply
    Tomato, Tumbler, 50 days, cascading, cherry tom, Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Viktorina, det.
    Tomato, Yellow River, det.
    Tomato, Window Box Roma, determinate, 12"-15" tall, Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Yellow Canary Hybrid, 12" tall, Red Robin sibling, trails, Containerseeds.com
    Tomato, Zhefin Short, det.

    Watermelon, Bush Sugar Baby, 80 days, 3.5Â vines yields 2 12 lbs. melons, Heirloom, Burpee
    Watermelon, Yellow Doll, 65 days, 5 -8 lbs. fruit, very productive, semi-compact vines, Nichols Garden Seeds

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Chard, usually Bright Lights, an heirloom which has several stem colors, yellow, orange, red, can usually be found at any nursery. It's better to tease apart and plant separately if you get more than one plant in a pot (they often come that way and it looks pretty). But you can also start it from seed and there are other varieties too.

    Southern Highbush blueberries will grow here:

    Sunshine Blue
    Southmoon
    Sharpblue
    Oneal
    Misty
    Jubilee
    Reveille

    are what are usually found in nurseries but there are others. There harvest dates, fruit size and color and of course taste varies. The bushes look different, some have more intense fall color, etc. I've had good luck with Sunshine Blue which seems to be more tolerant of our alkaline water.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wow, that's quite a list Greenwitch. Thank you.