Hi roper, I would like to try some of your seed. Can I send you seed in return, or just send you postage? Tell me how to do this, I've only traded seeds a few times and it was years ago. mystic wanderer..I will try the tea soak. I am desperate to get some of these old beauties to germinate. I did order some seed from Burpee called camillion, I think that was the name of them. I ordered 2 seed pkts and just the shipping was 4.95..geeez I am saving tons of seed this year, so I can trade seed this winter. Thanks guys!!!!!

I'd buy a blue rose. I have one of every other color roses in my garden so of course I'd have to get a blue one. I'd really like if they managed to get a really good purple out of it that doesn't look red or pink half the time. I'd be much more excited about the perfect grape koolaid purple rose than a plain american-flag blue. Rhapsody in Blue is as close as I've seen. I wish mine would bloom a bit more though. I hope it looks more like cupshaped_roses picture next year. I should add that I'm one of those crazy people that like Oranges and Lemons.

Well, for as tired/sleepy as I am, I had a great giggle over all the comments! Please excuse any typos I might make. Made the mistake of cutting grass at noon. Not a good idea! Lou, thank you for the offer. I may take you up on it. Don't know how soon I'll get to them. We have our BIG family campout/antique gas hit an miss engine/steam show in a couple of weeks. I have the honor of getting two motor homes ready, preping any food in advance that I can, and do most of the cooking while there. Mom and Dad are only able to go if we all do all the work. DB & DSIL may not even be able to go this year, due to starting a new business. It's only about 20 minutes away for all of us, but if DB has classes, he can't close the studio. DD will help as much as she can, so will DS IF he doesn't have to work. Last count, with invited guests/famiy/friends, was 22 I think. Dad & I will move in on Wed. Show starts on Fri. Some prep we will do on Thurs, and have a steak fry that night. Breakfast menu so far is home fries by request, eggs, pancakes (the only thing besides a little meat of choice mom will eat for breakfst), bacon sausage, or ham. Lunch ham sandwiches. Fri night is chili, burgers for those who don't want chili. Sat same for breakfast and lunch. Supper is burgers and dogs. Potato salad for whatever meal anyone wants. Dad wants cauliflower with cheese on Thurs. Raw veggies available anytime. Sunday is leftovers! Any of you who want to sneak in, the WILL be plenty of food. I ALWAYS have food to bring home! Ann, no, wrong side of the family, tho my aunt did make them with that dough. Yummy! Lars, the whatever you called it sauce is cause I also asked for a cheese sauce to put over the cauliflower. Dad is remembering how his mom cooked! By the time I can remember her cooking, she was getting too sick for me to learn from her. Your cinnamon rolls sound fantastic, but I don't have the energy to go to that much work. Now, before I fall asleep at the computer, I'm headed for bed! I'm already wore out before the show even gets here! My fault. But I was trying to beat the rain on radar that ended up only being a few sprinkles. I'll get caught up on sleep and be off and running again. Then I'll sleep in a lot the following week! I'm happy to try to spoil him. We don't know how many more times they will be able to go. I said last year, I was going to do this the easy way this year. Well, the meat for the chili will be cooked and seasoned ahead and frozen. The burger patties will be made and frozen ahead. I'm taking the old roaster and dumping every thing in that for the chili and letting it go most of the day. Ham will go in a crock pot on warm with a bit of water for lunches first thing in the morning and they can eat lunch whenever! Will have to keep watch of Mom. She doesn't always know it's her sugar droppign when she doesn't feel good. Dad knows his. And yes, I know the cinnamon rolls aren't a good idea, but he will compensate for the treat. That's why I spoil him that weekend. Thanks all. Tami

Good for thinking outside the box. Think twice about rose of sharon. Leafs out very late and is an ugly bundle of sticks till then. Unless it is one of "sterile' new cultivars they seed like crazy and you will be plucking seedlings all the next summer. But some, I don't remember if its the Satin or chiffon series are sterile. But again, they don't do or look like anything except for the three or four weeks they bloom. Lilacs....nothing....three weeks of bloom then nothiing. Do a mixed selection. Maybe you'll accept the 'suggestion' or reference to old fashioned without actually planting old style plants that have just one season of interest. (not that some new styles don't do any thing for 3/4 of the growning season) I live in a house built in 1811. I don't have a volunteer crew like an "showcase" historic house. owned by a historical society. Old fashioned isn't necessarily more beautiful, more fragrant, less bug susceptible.