This is # 1 & 4 together... #1 is small, around 4 inches tall. The leaves usually have the gold in the middle...only a few stay greened up. the leaves are usually 3 inches long by 1 1/2 inches wide...at the widest part. #4...looks to me to be a more common hosta...this is the one that has never had a name. It is about 10 inches tall, and the leaves are 3 by 2. The flowers on this one are light purple and don't go more then 4-5 inches above the plant. Hope this helps :D

Moccasinlanding thank you for the warm welcome. A tribute to the Queen is indeed merited. I would definitely have to agree with you. Like I said in my original post I knew once I saw these three that they were special. There are a few other cultivars of hosta in the garden as well but nothing like these Elegans. (speaking of which I shall have to put Steve to the challenge again identifying the other mystery hosta in this jungle of mine). Ken won't ID if you don't link pics directly � lazy bum :p j/k Let me clarify though, so as to maybe better offer me advice. We live about 11 miles north of Philadelphia in the burbs. This garden is old and overgrown. There are a whole slew of perennials (mostly ferns and hellebore) from the original landscaping design. But like I said there is nothing to look at except overgrown bushes and self-chocking iris. So when I broke ground and started clearing out the first perennial bed about a month ago I hit clay. Real bad nasty compiled clay that I would rather throw on a wheel and spin into a lovely container than garden with. So my goal as I go through these perennial beds is to amend the soil. Slowly in the process moving all the established perennials to rejuvenate them with proper spacing and a more cohesive design (I'm going for woodland floor since the sycamores are dominating all the light in the yard). With my Elegans I was not intending to move them from their current locations but rather dig them up, amend the soil underneath, and then replace them divided and refreshed. I have read and seen when a mature plant gets to big it starts to suffer and I don't know how long total beyond 8 years these have been in the ground. Am I in the wrong to touch them in any way ? I feel like they would only benefit from a soil amending. I would not dig them up every year, but rather amend around them in the years to follow. Should I leave them be and wait until I see more signs showing me it is time to divide ? Thanks as always ^^ You guys are great. Ludi

a scale would help .... it looks too big for GT ... but no scale ... too pointed also ... PEACE comes to mind.. check the third pic at the library .... why are yours so shiny ... overhead watering.. but the new interior flush is glaucous ... ken

i dont see plantiginea .... but i did wonder about royal standard ... or one of the look alikes ... look for fragrant white flowers in the future.. not sure these will bloom with the treatment they have gotten .... yeah.. i was messin with you.. by not telling you how to tape.. welcome to this forum.. lol ... whoever did those posts in the links included in the link above.. was genius ... if i say so myself.. lol .. now you go sit in the corner with an adult beverage.. and contemplate what you did to these you show in the post.. rotflmbo ... ken