wonder why it is the wrong color in all that sun

and why your camera dated the pix as jan 14 ... you live in a mysterious z 3/4 if they grow like that in jan.. lol ...

you know how to find the hosta library .. yes???

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: i think vim and vogr might be the green version

You know how we are up here in the great North always tring to keep you on your toes!:P

As to the color I don't know. I do know that it is only afternoon sun though from about 1-1:30 to about 4-5pm. I have never really looked at the amount of sun on that side of the house because I always knew it wasn't full sun just because of all the shadows from the neighbors house and our tree.

I did check the library and Vim and Vigor looks a lot darker than mine has ever been. It's the first spring I've had it come up in this spot, I had moved it last year because I was worried about HVX. Some people said it took almost 5 years to show up in their S&S so I put it in an area that wouldn't affect my whole hosta garden if it does turn up with HVX. It was more yellow when I first got it at the nursery.
Also my camera is in vivid color I don't know if that has anything to do with it.

I just went out and checked it again it isn't YELLOW but it doesn't seem to be REALLY green either. I held a green hosta leaf to it and you could see the difference. This one being lighter in color.

this is it last year in a different spot

last years pic look like the correct color.. so chalk it up to taking pix at high noon ..

i favor after dinner... you get truer colors.. without a fancy camera

i have a bunch in near full sun.. get this.. on the driveway .... yours should be explosive next year...

ken

Here is my Vim and Vigor, a young plant only.

And here is one of my Sum and Substances, probably 10 years old. Bernd

S&S should have 14-16vp and I only count 9vp on your hosta. My S&S gets sun from 10am till 12:30pm and is a very yellow chartreuse. I have to water the heck out of it in August and last year planted 2 Hibiscus next to it to give a little more shade hopefully to prevent scorching.

Your leaf texture (greater gloss and substance)and ruffled margins don't look right either for S&S. I think you have another hosta. It is nice looking though.

Vein count on a young hosta will be different than on a mature one. When you see a vein count posted for a particular hosta it is taken from a mature established plant.

Mine is still in the process of unfurling and won't be done until it touches the ground.
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I understand about vein count but the hosta in question is at an age (it was bought in 2009)where it should come close to the lower end of the vein count for S&S. I have both S&S and the closely related 'Parhelion' and both, at 2 years, had vein counts within 1-2 of the mature plant in their larger leaves. In the case of S&S that would be around 12, not the 9 I counted. That is 5 vein pair and a big difference. Even my very slow developing Tokudama came close to mature vein counts in its 2nd year even though the leaf sizes were much smaller.

I went outside and counted the veins on the largest leaves of my 2 S&S and came up with 14 and 15. You have to count all veins, also partials, not only those which go all along the length of a leaf. Additionally there are more veins on the underside supposedly, but I did not look there. I did not see any leaf with 9 vein pairs.
Bernd

Here are my two 10+ yr. old Sum & Substance

Berndynz, you are confusing me. I am assuming we are all responding to Alycia's post and her photos show her hosta having only 9 vein pairs in the 2nd year photos. Mine have 14, yours have 14,rmacs has 14. All the photos here have 14 except alycia's. I purchased 6 new hosta this spring and all vein counts were witin 20% of reported vein pairs even though they were all 1st year plants. I am not saying ALL hosta will be the same. But Sum and Substance that are 2 years old should have close to if not exactly 14 or more vein pairs including the short ones in the middle and the short ones at the lobes. I don't think Alycia's picture is of a Sum and Substance, that is all I am saying. Les

Les...I concur. Doesn't look like S&S.

Les, first I did not agree that the hosta Alycia is showing is S&S, it is dark green and shiny, that's why Ken brought up Vim and Vigor which is much darker. But then I remember that my S&S were darker when they just unfurled, so perhaps it is a S&S. Alycia is in zone 3/4.

So I showed my V&V which has the same color as Alycia's pictures show. My plant seems to be the same age so it shows and has the same vein count of 10 pairs (you also have to count partials).

Now, young plants usually have a lower vein count, so having only 10 vein pairs is acceptable for a young plant when matures might have 14, 16 or 17 counting everything. Both V&V and S&S have higher vein counts of 16 or 17 when mature per the hosta library. Several of us counted 14 on mature S&S plants. As I read there would be more veins on the underside of leaves, but I did not contort myself to look at those.

Anyway, not being an expert, Alycia's picture show a plant of the S&S family, and the vein counts support that. When leaves turn gold/yellow, then it is an acceptable S&S, and they grow slowly.
Bernd