Portable Electric Burner for Pressure Canning
keithcindy
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Portable Induction Burner, need one?
Comments (9)Daven, I'm a convert, too! No, it's not a 220V, but I figure that 1.8KW is about the size of the smallest burner on a "full size" cooktop, so it's a fair trial of the technology. And it beats the living daylights out of ANY burner on my 11 year old Jennair smoothtop electric range, even the 'biggest' one. Can't wait for the remodel now. I like that it's so quiet, too. You can hear the fan, but it's not at all loud. Cj...See MorePortable Induction Burner with Dial Control, not keypad
Comments (6)From personal experience, I can say that Cooktek makes excellent portable induction units. It might be the kind of thing that judo_and_peppers should consider for daily use in the hot sauce business but, unfortunately for BarryV, the 120v Cooktek models are way more expensive than even the "pricey" Vollrath model he looked at. The Vollrath 59500 is in the $450 range, the least expensive Cooktek (Heritage MC1800) runs $700 to $800. Other knob-controlled models/brands that I know of are Eurodib C16Y ($100 at sites like Sears.com but only 1600 watts) Sunpentown (1800 watt/120v model runs about $370, and reviews on vendor sites and at Chowhound and eGullett) and Avantco (roughly $130 at webstarauntstore.com; I think there are reviews on Amazon, but I have no first hand experience with it.) Regarding the suggestion for getting a 240v/2500 watt unit: a much more versatile burner but there has be a second 240v outlet for this to work. That is pretty rare in apartments. Some other considerations: 1. Pan sizing (Part 1) -- the measurements that matter for induction hobs are the bases of the pans. When we talk about a 12" frypan, we're talking about the diameter across the top where the sides have flared out from the base. The pan bases are more like 9" which means they should be fine on a 10.25" burner. If it is really a 10" burner. 2. Pan sizing (part 2). That 10.5" burner probably isn't more than 7 or 8 inches in diameter and somebody else's 9" burner is (like all of the less expensive 1800 watt portable induction units) probably more like 6 inches in diameter. (That's the size of the boil pattern you will see with the heat on 10/high.) No big deal for boiling most liquids but maybe a concern if stir frying in 12" fry pans. 3. Pan sizing (Part 3): I understand that your dad is downsizing from a 60" Viking, but how many big pans will he be taking with him? Is he going to be cooking for others or mostly just for himself? 4. Pan sizing (Part 4): If your dad wants to use oversize pots, there is no more problem plonking a big kettle on an induction burner than on any other electric burner. Actually, there may be less than he might experience with that radiant smoothtop electric that is already in the apartment -- very large pans can mess with the heat-control sensors and not come to a boil on some smoothtops. OTOH, a friend of mine had no trouble using my Max Burton 6200 portable induction burner with a nearly full 13-inch canning kettle when making beer. (Check out brewer forums for more info.) Just be aware that some of the less expensive models may not be up to carrying a lot of weight. With your dad downsizing to an apartment, maybe this is not a consideration, though? 5. Noises: does your dad have hearing aids? Some hearing aids seem to unpleasantly amplify noise from induction cooktops. There is both cooling fan noise and pan noise to consider. The portable induction units make a fair bit of fan noise and some, such as my MB 6200, can produce a lot of pan noise, as well. This problem is much worse with the portable induction units than the induction ranges and cooktops I've used. I haven't had to resort to hearing aids, myself (yet), but a friend of mine who does wear them tells me that the fan noise gets amplified a lot as does the whistling/ringing/buzzing noises that pans seem to make when heating up on the MB. He finds this distracting and uncomfortable. This does not happen to everybody, but definitely is something to check out in this process. 6. Speed to boil and adjustablity: Portable 1800 watt/120v induction units will have the near-instant adjustability that your dad will have had with gas. Be aware, though, that speed to heat/boil with an 1800 watt induction hob won't be noticeably faster than using the big (2500 watt?) burner on that smoothtop electric electric stove....See MorePortable induction burner arrived yesterday
Comments (29)I was wondering if you had some unusual HVAC, oh, like an outdoor wood furnace and I don't know what for cooling - Nubian slaves with ostrich-feather fans, who just happened not to be there at the time? Our tax assessor has us down for electric heat (partially correct, since the heat pump includes radiant heat for those times when the geothermal can't keep up) and no AC. Guess it has to be that way since they're not allowed to tax us on a geothermal system. But I know it looks strange on the tax card. If we ever sell, it might be hard to convince buyers what type of system we have. Though by then I hope geo will be much more common. We have hard water, so the little bit that spits out of the top of the canner (doesn't have a tight-fitting lid) vaporizes around the bottom of the pot and leaves a ring that I just can't get off. I also have some black burnt-on stuff right on the white ring that marks the smaller front burner, nothing seems to get that off (it's probably grape jelly)....See MorePortable Induction Burner for 12+ hour simmering
Comments (8)I agree about Fagors. Cook's Illustrated/ATK recommends Fagors and those are what they use in the test kitchens. I have and frequently use both a 6 quart Kuhn-Rikon and a 10 quart Fagor. I find the KR is easier to use but, when I needed a bigger PC (for when making larger quantities of stocks and broths, among other things), the Fagor Duo was 1/3 the cost of the comparably large KR. FWIW, one can buy a 10 quart Fagor "Rapida" model from Costco/Costco.com for $100 and they also sell a combo-kit with both a 4 quart and an 8 quart PC for less than that. Some folks find a that 8-quart capacity PC is sufficient for their broth and stock-making. I was taught to make stocks and broths the way mkeys does it --- which was a long time back in the previous century --- but I find the PCs are so much faster and better. The big deal with making stocks and broths in spring valve PCs like the Fagors and KRs (as opposed to the old style jiggle top/weighted-valve style of PC or the long stockpot simmer) is that the spring-valve models vent very little steam thereby leaving better and more concentrated flavors in the stock or broth. For a somewhat scientific testing of how much better spring-valve PC cooking of stock/broths is over the traditional methods, check out this testing and verification by Dave Arnold at the French Culinary Institute at: http://www.cookingissues.com/index.html%3Fp=2561.html The PCs get the job done in under three hours. Acceptable results often in less than an hour but a bit richer if you go an hour or so longer. I've used PCs on gas and electric burners, but I prefer using a portable induction cooker (PIC) because its digital power/temp settings and the timer-controlled burner give me near fire-and-forget ease of use. I've sometimes taken stocks and broths out to 6 hours --- requiring one-timer reset on my Max Burton PIC --- but the improvement over two to three hours in the pressure cooker seemed so marginal as to be barely noticeable. For folks who want their bone broths with more calcium, gelatin, etc. suspended/emulsified into the broth --- as you would get if you had the broth at a higher simmer/low boil than mkeys uses with the 24-hour stockpot simmer -- Laura Pazzaglia explains the pressure-cooker technique here: http://www.hippressurecooking.com/pressure-cooker-bone-broth/ But, for folks wedded to the 24-hour still simmer (almost sous vide) technique, the Caso seems like it might be the only induction-game in town for the PIC market, at least until the probe-controlled Paragon is released. Apparently, that same Bluetooth temp probe is also supposed to work with the newest GE Cafe and Monogram full-size induction cooktops, too....See Morekeithcindy
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