I hope no one minds my making a push for native plants, especially under a native tree like Silver Maple. Very happy under our Silver Maple: Golden Groundsel, False Solomon's Seal, American Spikenard, Oakleaf Hydrangea, Pagoda Dogwood, Spicebush, Bluestem Goldenrod, White Snakeroot, Wood Aster, Sweet Joe Pye Weed, Native Columbine, Royal Ferns, Cardinal Flower, Dwarf Crested Iris. Birds love this area with all the underplantings, and plants that supply lots of caterpillars for their young, and berries later. Also great for bees and butterflies. One trick is putting a bird bath under the tree, and putting some of the plants needing extra moisture, like the Cardinal Flower, near that so they get watered when you hose the bird bath. I am actually trying to get rid of the lily of the valley that is also there, that was there when we moved in. It is super-poisonous to pets, and looks just awful after it's done blooming. I wish we could totally eradicate it.

Forgot to add a few shrubs/plants on the list...I also have: 1 Beautyberry Bush (Callicarpa Americana) 3'X3' ? English Ivy (variegated green/white) varied length 1 Virginia Sweetspire (white bottlebrush flowers) 3'X3' 3 Verbascum (Silver Lining) in second "blooming year" 7'X2' I'm not asking for much in return...I'm basically looking for some simple Ornamental grasses (even though I have a gazillion Pony Tails grasses I have to offer). If you don't have any OGs, they can be easily acquired at most any nursery, but technically, I don't know if it's exactly 'proper etiquette' (GW law) to ask others to "acquire" plants in exchange for others -- buuuuttt I have done so in the past in order to acquire what I considered a hard-to-find plant in my area -- is that the same as having to report finding a $5 bill on the sidewalk to the IRS? =) Well...I'm not quite getting the responses I thought I'd receive. Perhaps it's too early in the season and most haven't come out of hibernation yet, hehe. Wish I could just sleep through into Spring of '08....yaaaaaaawwwnnn. Then again, perhaps I don't have what others are looking for. Hate to see all the $$ wasted and them not find happy new homes. Maryann...welcome to the GW family. I'll definately have something free for you...please just give me a little time to attempt to swap for some Ornamental grasses or other 'wants'. Please email me in 2-4 weeks and remind me so we can then talk about what you'd like ok? What would you consider your top 5 wants from my list? -- and I'll attempt to hold one or more. NCrescue, I would consider you just as a eligible for my plants as other GWers - I'm actually a little confused as to why you feel as though you would only get leftovers; then again, I am easily confused (remember Dori in "Finding Nemo"? - HA, she's too funny. I sent you an email about the passalong. Any chance you could ask around your Master Gardener friends to see if they would have any OGs available? I'm looking for Pink Muhly grass, Blue Oat grass, Pine Muhly grass (High Country Gardens), Japanese Blood grass, Dwarf Fountain grass, etc - basically most any dwarf OG should do. I have big'uns I need to divide and share - Maiden, Pampas and Zebra. I can email digital pics of any of my plants above if anyone would like to see them. til then, take care.

Good point! Yet in reverse, Pinus strobus is used for the itty-bitty miniatures and this reversal of "juice" has no effect. Oddly enough, too, a guy I heard of uses Microbiota decussata for Alaskan Cypress. His grafts were 18 years old a few years ago and apparently, there was no bowling ball effect. I wish I understood everything. I guess that's why five years ago or whenever it was I started participating here, I, thought it would be nice to know in current arboretums, which understocks were being used. Now, some guy will come along and say that "juice" can vary... within a species that is, well... I still don't get it! Nothing makes sense to me! hehehehahahahohohhohohoho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I need a V-8! Smack! Dax

Nate, I'm really ko because of the strange characters what gardenweb makes. Kekfesto - or Kékfestő- is the correct name. This means "painting blue", an old hungarian job to prepare clothes in cooking blue colors. Finally Toth Gyula prepared the O series grafts of my all new cultivars. Next week I plant them in a topsecret place as a mother plantage. I hope really, some of them may loved trees later. Zsolt