Correction, the 'Starkl' shown above is actually 'Pjatra Kraluj' ! Updates from today: Picea pungens 'JM3C' This is looking like a cone. Pinus sylvestris 'Blue Angel' Pinus parviflora 'Goldilocks' Abies lasiocarpa 'Jade Sky' (grafted on A. grandis superplug from U. Idaho) Pseudotsuga menziesii baby seedlings Pinus mugo 'Pstra' Picea pungens 'Nagykoros' Picea engelmannii 'Nefertiti'

a few more Abies nordmanniana 'Golden Spreader' Picea abies 'Roth' Picea orientalis 'Tom Thumb' Pinus densiflora 'Burke's Red Variegated' Picea pungens dwarf Abies concolor 'Herbst Short-Branch' Picea glauca 'Echiniformis' true form Picea pungens 'Vidor' Pseudotsuga menziesii 'Uwe's Golden' Picea omorika 'Peve Tijn' Abies nordmanniana 'Wintergold'

Folks, I forgot to update that 2011 is the Year of Camera Experiment. I used to have to wait for the perfect lighting either dawn or sunset, lol! and with certain roses they'd mushroom out and lose their spirals by then, haha! So this year I started messing with the manual settings of my Canon Rebel XSi. I sent these to Jim first to look at, lol! The Ralph Lauren Cover Boy model for the camera is Jim's Baby Napoleon Distant Drums :D 1. Here is the default Sports setting 2. Here is the TV setting of 160 with the wrong fluorescent instead of the sunlight setting but still kind of cool 3. Here is a TV setting of 250 with sunlight setting 4. Here is my favorite TV setting of 200 with sunlight setting I also forgot to demo my frustrations with how HTs mushroom out into moppy blooms with open stamens in the heat... and when it gets cooler HTs start to "normalize"; not quite there but better... I also forgot to show 2 more blooms. Crepuscule is going to be shovel-pruned next year. It started out as a 5" band and grew to be a 6' tall rose, but after the first winter it had to be cut down to a 7" rose from which it never regained much vitality afterwards. It doesn't have quite enough scent for me to have patience. Only highly fragrant roses get coddled in my garden, lol! Another rose, Aromatherapy. This rose is highly fragrant and the color is the perfect deeper bubblegum pink that is slower to fade. But it is highly BS vulnerable and requires a lot of Gardenville sea tea to keep it healthy- way too expensive to sustain, lol! It is coddled because of the fragrance. I may replace it in a few years with Laguna if a friend from England likes her Laguna. I would replace Aromatherapy with Belinda's Dream which is HT PERFECT in bloom form! but the pink is not the deep pink alas!

@mangodog thanks for the information, multi grafting is something I want to try eventually, i guess choosing the right early , mid and late season varieties that have the same growth , Id agree with tropicalgrower the valencia pride is like the godzilla of mango trees, the one i planted at my mothers house, is about 40-45 ft tall, and only about 10 years old. its easily visible on google earth lol but who knows how these cultivars will react sharing the same root stock.