I have some clems on order and I bought some to plant after they are hardened off...heres what I have... omoshiro dutchess of edin. yukikomoshi warsaw nike gernesy cream bees jub. I already have a newdawn rose with 'the president' and I was thinking to plant bees jub. with that.. warsaw nike has sooo many varietys of photos from burgandy to dark purple..if it really has a bit of reddish I thought it may be good with omoshiro....and then I could find a dark purple for the yuk...opinions? suggestions?

That is definitely the same shape as my 'Niobe.' However, on my monitor this flower is a bit lighter with more blue/purple than what I see in my garden.

Hey thanks Michael. I will enjoy it while it lasts--maybe I'll try and collect the seeds from this flower. Can you talk a little more about your experiece with variations? I'm just interested in hearing about what you've seen and done.

My EV is more purple too. Perhaps both are mislabeled. I have wanted to get a WN but they haven't been available locally. I did see one at Hummingbird Farm a few years ago, but Cindy had said it was mislabeled as something else. The next time I got back there, about a month later, it was already sold.