I find the changing topic and confusion interesting since 4 or 5 varieties of the evening primrose grow wild on my land. Telling the O speciosa from the O kunthiana can be hard.. It is confusing out there in the front field. Normal wild Oenothera Kuntianas are a paler pink than this magenta creation which has been hybridized and jerked with. The OP plant is not representative of the wild plants around here. The spreading characteristic of O. speciosa will drive the orderly gardener bonkers but the one who likes to work with plant characteristics in their design will appreciate this and the accidents that enrich garden.. My first garden that I saw with it used years and years ago was a really sensitive example of plant characteristics used appropriately. It was a tall bluff with a rock wall about 6' tall and the "lawn"(I use that term loosely) rose in a grade above i the wall. The owner mowed the grass pretty short in early spring and the grass grew and the EP grew up through it and the rocks on the wall making a beautiful cascading effect and covering the grass completely where it grew . Then as summer drew near it disappeared and the owner mowed her grass again. It made me search it out years ago and , believe me, at the time it was not very available in the trade, except by raiding the fields. I got my start from her of the tall bluff. Here in Texas The pink Oenotheras are "spring ephemeral of sorts. It goes dormant and disappears with the beginning of EARLY summer.. SO do not get this plant and expect it to last through the summer. This is its behavior in Texas. Maybe it's behavior is different in Concord New Hampshire or Lansing Michigan. Heat does make it go away till the next year..Also the caterpillars love to eat its foliage. They are long gone in my garden right now. I like the idea for this "does your garden look like your character Thread". YES, YES AND YES. Mine is as disorderly as I am, absolutely.Good thread idea. I think that all should have tolerance of the latin name/common name confusions. Besides, Those latin names change with the mounting regularity these days pushed by the committees of arguing scientists. They do help but there is as much name confusions in them as there is in the common names. Eupatorium, ageratatina, conoclinium , what is it? I asked a salvia guy was it Salvia Reptans or Salvia leptophylla . It seemed like a simple question but he could not give me a simple answer because he did not know what one was the days right one today. The committees were't clear in their last statement... We can educate people to loose their fear of the mysterious latin name. and we can be tolerant of those like me who abuse all language that is given them. I think it is a mark of an intelligent person who is fluid and fills in the blanks and looks for the intended meaning , even when it is through muddy waters. - Mara, Queen of the Maraprop ( I mean malaprop)

Dorothy the sphynx moth loved it too. While I was watering tonight it got really busy in a whole bunch of them that opened today. Eloise that is usually ME ha ha ha but I had poured to much coffee and there was not enough room for more milk. Hence the dirty outside of the cup ha ha ha Kristy lol. I guess the sphynx moth has a yellow nose tonight roflmao Chocolate brug...I am laughing so hard I have tears in my eyes. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh I told you I am waiting across the railroad tracks meno lol What is the saying...I could rip out a tree? I guess all that coffee let you do it lol Another proof that amercian hyperdized brugs do much better for us. Lucy

I feel your pain, lindseyrose. Our patch of EPs last year looked almost identical to yours. (Nice photo.) And there's the rub: we like how they look, but in our hearts, we want a LAWN where they are. Our EPs are just beginning their show. Ours would have bloomed sooner but I mowed low a week or so ago. Time to mow again. It's getting hot, to where I really don't want to have to dig up the EPs, not even a little patch at a time. Meanwhile onward they spread. What little St. Augustine we want to keep is getting overrun. Our only consolation is that our nutsedge infestation is as bad or worse than the EPs: all the foliage, and no flowers! I guess a few of us are just "desperado gardeners" (from an old song by the Eagles) - the only (yard) beauty we want is the kind that we can't get. The EP grows best where we most desire for it not to, & never grows where we want it to. That's reason to call EP a WILDflower. The lasagna idea might work if you want to go that way. We set up some great flower beds with the lasagna technique. Good luck with your primroses!

Just saw this--randomly checking back to the Lacanche threads. I have a Cluny with one gas oven and have posted about the venting in the past. (Since 2004...) I had crackle tile on my backsplash, and after one use of the gas oven those many years ago, I realized I had made a mistake, because I don't have a spacer, and the condensation has discolored the tile considerably. It is only a problem on that section of tile that is immediately behind the vent, but someday I probably should replace the backsplash. You don't want to change the direction of the vent so the steam comes forward--it is really hot and I don't see how you could stand at the stove and cook at the same time you were using the oven.