Ken_Adrian I wanted "white oaks" for deer hunting. No nursery around sold them. So the next best option was what I did and the only white oak they sold. (only 30 bucks for 100 trees). I guess I didnt mention that I did loose some during the first year which I was expecting. The bare root sapling I got from the "state" were planted in pots for a year then tranplanted around the property. I kept around 10 for spare which I have only 2 left after replacing the ones that didnt make it. Its intersting to see that some of the saplings are 3' tall while others are less than 1'. I am probably over anxious and if I loose a few here and there, its what I expected. I just dont want to loose the entire fleet if I could find a reasonable solution to my trees problem. My property soil ranges from sandy upland to bottomland soil (Swampchestnut oaks (SCO) love this environment). I planted around the whole property including full sun sandy soil knowing that its not the most favorible soil, but I had so freakin many of them, why not? The ones in the wetter soil and partly shady areas are really thriving where as the ones planted in the side of a hill with horrible soil and huge limestone rocks just inches from the surface are not looking to good, but at least I am giving them a chance. Keeping them watered is a chore, but well worth it. It takes about 3 hours and 110 gallons to water them all every weekend if there is no rain (gravity feed). I planted 30 of the saplings in three rows of 10 with 15ft spacing. I will eventually have to cull some out, but not for a long time. Its 106 acres. 1/2 pasture for hay. The rest is mostly red oaks: post oaks, water oaks, southern red oak, blackjack oak, willow oak. Also black willow, short leaf pine, loblolly pine, sweatgum, a lot of elm, a lot of hickory, way too many yaupon and other native east Texas trees, shrubs and vines. I try my best to keep out all the tallow trees. I would like to get rid of all the sweatgum too. I hate that tree with a passion. And a 4 acre pond. I am trying to keep it all native, trees that are native to that region, except for the 12 fruit trees I have planted that the coons and possums love more than me. The biggest problem I am going to have to face is fencing all the trees to protect them from the excited male deer during their rut. I lost my biggest swampchestnut last year due to this. I thought it was to small for them to rub on, but I was mistaken. Really surprised that the deer arent browsing on the new leaves from the SCO. I hope this answered your question and also thanks for the feedback.

If you see them around late Sept or Oct let me know. Otherwise I can try Schumachers. I just thought if someone had a tree close to them I could get 5 or 6 acorns. I only want 2 trees for my yard and out of 6 acorns that sink in a bucket and seem viable I can get 2 trees. If I order them I'll feel like I need to plant them all! I could give them away I guess.

I have several acorns on my Chestnut oaks, I have 2 Chestnut oak trees, they have put out acorns after just about 3 years in ground, maybe even 2 years, they grow hella fast, and NOW I am getting acorns on my Swamp White oaks, they may be about 7-8 years in ground from whips about 2 years old, SO Swamp white oaks will give you acorns in POSSIBLY about 8 years from planting til fruiting. and I also am getting small acorns from my Pin oaks and my Nutall's oaks and 1 Shumard oak tree. I am still waiting to see my Compton;s oak trees acorns, I do KNOW they will be rather big acorns, at least compared to most of the acorns from the PIn oaks, Nuttall's oaks and Shumard oaks, it seems like most white oak acorns are larger than the white oak acorns. Anyway, I hope that the original poster could come here and respond to all of these answers, it would help to see if my reply and all of these other replies have helped to answer the OP's question.

do you have any experience growing things indoors in winter ???? in my z5 adrian MI house.. though you can easily control light and water .... humidity is the hard one.. with a forced air furnace ... not to mention.. having to build a light stand gizmo .. with lights adjustable from 6 inches to 3 or 4 feet ... i have no doubt it can be done ... the question usually revolves around how much $$$ you have to invest ... in building the setup requisite to success ... the converse being.. its usually cheaper to buy what you need in the first place.. see link as an example.. 5 two year old plants for $16 ... put oak in the search function there.. and they offer different kinds ... [otherwise i have not ordered from them.. and i am sure there are other similar places] ken Here is a link that might be useful: link