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Whats This, An Acorn from Outer Space?

14 years ago

When I was at work i saw an acorn with the "cap" part that was like a shaggy head of hair. A very small head , true. Never the less I was baffled, and haven't been able to find it on a search engine. i know it was some kind of oak, but what kind? Any ideas? Thanks, :) Dena

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Iris GW
14 years ago
It would help to know where you are, but take a look at Quercus acutissima, a non-native oak called Sawtooth Oak, and see if that is the one.

Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:459276}}
dena_eft
Original Author
14 years ago
Oh my goodness, thats it! I am in US, Baltimore Maryland, and thank you so much! You know, you're kinda smart. :) arum
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noki
14 years ago
hippy acorn?
Iris GW
14 years ago
Well the other choice was Quercus macrocarpa, the native bur oak. While the acorns are similar, the leaves of the two trees are quite different.

So for a final identification, you might want to check out the leaves. Glad to help.
arbo_retum
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dena, do add your zone and location to your i.d. It helps GW posters help you and vice versa.Here's how:

Posted by runktrun z7a MA (My Page) on
Sat, Sep 26, 09 at 15:37

At the very bottom of this page in the green bar select Member Services
This will open GardenWeb Members page, select If you are a member already, please log in! (note that you may need to do this even if you are already logged in)
This will open your Members page, select Edit Your Personal Information, Page, and Preferences (note you will be asked to log in againÂwhat can I say itÂs GardenWeb) you will now be able to edit your member profile.
Below gender you can add your Garden Zone and region (mine for example is z7aMA.) If you do not know what your zone is now would be a good time for you to find out and GW makes this easy by providing a link Find Your Zone enter your zip code and wala GardenWeb will tell you what your zone isÂ

best,
mindy
dena_eft
Original Author
14 years ago
Mindy, WOW was that ever helpful! I needed to change some more things also, and didn't know how how do it. Thanks! :) Arum
jqpublic
14 years ago
i would remove your email though. unless you want everyone to see your email and email you there.
dena_eft
Original Author
14 years ago
All emails welcome, that's what the "spam" button is for. :)
Arum

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