The most impractical piece of rose advice you've ever gotten
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Comments (17)About 25 years ago, we got a rose from Bob Edberg, when he was operating Limberlost Roses, in the San Fernando Valley. He said it was 'Mrs. R.G. Sharman-Crawford'. It was a WOW in our conditions. In our ignorance, we planted it under a massive seedling avocado. In defiance of every bit of rose advice, it flourished. It grew huge, and bloomed heavily. We entered it in rose shows, and won trophies. Then, someone told us that modern research revealed that it was 'Cornet' -- a mid 1800's Hybrid Perpetual. So, we changed the name, and won trophies with it as 'Cornet.' Then, it turned out that no one really thought it was either one of those roses, but should be study named "Barbara Worl." So we changed the name, and won trophies with it as "Grandmother's Hat". (Or, maybe "Barbara Worl".) We still don't know what it is, but it's the best rose we've ever grown. We've propagated it, and we grow it in many places in the garden, but it's STILL our top rose, and I don't care what it is -- "really"....See MoreI, for one, will NOT be ordering the new Roald Dahl rose! EVER!
Comments (108)An interesting thread, although I have no idea where I stand on this. I always found what little I read of Dahl's children's books to be rather disturbing. I do think people's prejudices in regard to certain names should be honored, especially if there is a very painful personal history behind that dislike. And even Mother Teresa seems not so saintly when one reads about her more deeply, so perhaps it would be nice to find non-confrontational names without however resorting to the saccharine sweet (actually nauseating in some instances) ones that some American breeders have chosen. I do agree with Marlorena about naming roses after religious figures simply because so many people feel uncomfortable with putting religion into the public realm, and that ought to be respected. As a life-long agnostic (since about the age of 12) I always disliked the fundamentalist rhetoric that bashed you over the head, especially when spouted by "ministers" who were then found to be pedophiles, but I've found that an old dog can learn new tricks. I came across the large body of near-death experiences first made known by Raymond Moody and since added to by many other reputable scientists which seems to show almost irrefutable proof that there is life after death, in spite of which materialist scientists continue to ignore it. Lately quantum physics and the string theory have made a little headway, however. So I was finally forced to confront the fact that there very well may be a universal entity that "guides" the universe, although it's a far cry from a biblical, paternalistic God figure. Forgive me for straying so far from the subject, but this forum is where I feel most at home so I'll ask for your understanding. What I now take away from every thought and action is that we ought to support and not hurt each other, because we are all a part of that universal force, even though some unenlightened public personas make me shudder to think that might be true. At any rate, I'm convinced that people who love roses and their pets are all perfect and perfectly wonderful!...See MoreNeed advice! Autumn Damask rose and my new rose beds
Comments (46)Gorgeous pictures everyone and you've gotten great advice from people closer to your zone. Just a heads-up that you want to be a bit careful where you buy your Reine des Violettes, since there are two versions of the rose circulating other that name. I started with "Not Reine des Violettes", which is both thorny and a once-bloomer - so Ingrid gets the satisfaction of being right even in her temporary "error". The color is lovely and it climbs, and it has the peppery foliage smell, but no rebloom ever on mine. I have now ordered the real RdV from Burlington, who I trust to know that she has the real one, and it's thornless and should be a repeat bloomer. I'm sure other people would have the real one, but do ask if repeat bloom matters to you. Cynthia...See MoreWill my climbing roses ever thrive?
Comments (30)Jmackie, Good lawn fertilizer, Espoma. Compost top dressing....Bravo! Once your turf thickens up, and you mow it at the right height for the breeds of grass in it, weeds will disappear, being choked out. First determine what is growing next door in the root zone of your climbers. If flower beds, I believe you are OK. If a shrub border, I believe the chance of weed killer being applied is slim. If lawn, perhaps recommend a non-herbicide fertlizer, explaining the negativ environmental impact of herbicides. Explain your situation to them with the roses. They should be delighted to see you beautify your property, and cooperate. It raises THEIR property value as well as yours, at your expense, effort, and time. Your neighbors may not even fertilize their lawn, so it could be a non-issue. BTW Milorganite (6-4-0), is better than Espoma (8-0-0), and at considerably less cost. Arnold, my brother's brother in law, used Milorganite on his lawn, 3 times a year: early spring, early summer, and fall, at my recommendation. He blessed me up and down for the rich, green, thick lawn he soon grew, cheaply, and safe for his children and dogs. He also overseeded his original horrible lawn with a blend of modern, improved fescues and perennial rye, no Kentucky blue grass, at my insistence, too. Then mowed it in spring at 2.5" and then for the summer at 3", every year the same. With the improved overseeded grasses and Milorganite, the lawn was the envy of his neighbors who all had professional lawn services, but every July-August their lawns would go dormant, and brown up while Arnold's stayed rich and thick green with no watering other than rainfall. Moses...See Moredan_keil_cr Keil
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