Should we give our virused roses an aspirin?
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can we cure our roses of virus in the California desert?
Comments (8)why not try? Better than paying for all the hard lab work. If some clean roses can be propagated from desert grown plants I think its great. Right now I have a beautiful sport from a virused medallion I got from a big box store. I would love to clean this rose of its RMV because it's unique in the world. Just like medallion but ruffly and pink to pinkpeach. RMV is something the rose world could do without. If it was cheap to get rid of, don't you think everyone would do it. I say give this desert idea a chance....See Moreshould we use aspirin for crown gall
Comments (5)I find individual testing of interest; but as has been demonstrated with Harpin: from 3 different testers one often gets 4 different answers. Even stasticially valid tests with controls from research laboratories can miss an important variable and therefore not be valid under different conditions. My father was born in 1897 on a Nebraska farm. He was the youngest of 6 boys that survived to adulthood. All of the boys had University educations in agriculture. He stressed that to be a successful farmer (he taught high school agriculture) it is very beneficial to understand one's crops. Thus, I was brought up in an environment that fostered understanding nature. The nice thing about a forum is that one can pick the topics that one is interested in. For example, some would not be interested in a drought related topic, but may be interested in something related to winter survival, etc....See MoreVirused roses in Europe
Comments (15)I am interested in what is the natural spread of rose viruses. In designing any experiment one normally calculates the number of samples required to obtain a result that has a 95% confidence level. I think the results of this type of calculation for rose virus spread are interesting. If the natural spread in a field is 1% a year and one checked the field at the end of one year, one would have to examine 2377 plants to be able to report the results as having a 95% confidence level (1.0 +/- 0.4)%. If the natural spread in a field is 4% a year, and one checked the field at the end of one year; one would have to examine 9220 plants to be able to report the results as having a 95% confidence level (4.0 +/- 0.4)%. To be able to report a (4 +/- 1)% spread, the number of plants should be 1475. To be able to report a (4 +/- 2)% spread number, one would need to examine 369 plants. To be able to report a (4 +/- 3)% spread number, one would need to examine 164 plants. The number of plants required for a quantitative study are probably larger than what most researchers would want to undertake. Another approach is a qualitative study to see if the spread is non zero. If designed correctly, positive results of such a study would have a definite meaning but negative results would not. An example of such a study appears to be the published paper by R. H. Converse and A. B. Bartlett, Plant Disease Reporter, volumn 63, pages 441-444, (1979). They studied 21 wild rose plants from 17 Oregon, U.S.A. locations. 5 plants out of the 20 that were tested by agar-gel diffusion (1 plant was not tested) were found to have tobacco streak virus. The positive testing plants came from 4 of the 17 sites (2 positive out of 2 tested from one site; 1 out of 1 tested from another site; 1 out of 3 from another; and 1 out of 1 from another). (The wild rose was not identified in the paper, I suspect that it was R. Setigera.) Here is a link that might be useful: Link to do your own calculations...See MoreRose Midge - Can we share our strategies pls?
Comments (107)Jim I have been racking my mind over your roses. You have 2 of my finest roses and it makes me mad that they won't grow for you. In all my years theres one thing I know for sure midge hates dry. A couple of years ago that is exactly what I did after bringing home some midge infested plants from Chicago. It does work to let the soil dry and will kill the midge the only trick is not to bring midge back into the garden again. We are having one of the driest year on record here. The midge are not smiling nor biting my roses. I'm certain that many have been killed off. Not all of them thou because I have had to water to keep things alive....See Moreonewheeler
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