The roses are probably Hybrid Teas although the one on the left might be a Hybrid Perpetual. But beyond that guess, I doubt if anyone can give you specific names. There are thousands of pink roses. Many of them look a lot alike. If you knew when the roses had been planted, you could omit everything introduced after that date. Perhaps you may be able to find a local rose show. You have a better chance of getting a spark of recognition when someone can hold the rose, sniff it for fragrance, see the size and health of the foliage. In addition, they will have grown roses in your growing conditions and you have a chance to find someone who knows what the survivor roses are in your part of the world. Here is a link that might be useful: Upcoming local rose shows

Goodness, how interesting all this is. I had no idea my simple question would call forth so much information and discussion. After reading and rereading these comments I went out and looked over my roses, then looked up pictures of rose foliage with chlorosis. Well. I don't know whether any of my roses have chlorosis. Some of them have some yellowing leaves, but I'm inclined to suspect a month without rain in full sun as the primary culprit. I don't see the pale leaves with darker veins that seem most characteristic of the disease, though I need to look more closely at the foliage on my plants. 'Trier' is nice and green. It's grafted on laxa, I believe, and perhaps this rootstock is adapted to alkaline soils? But I have a lot of Hybrid Musks on their own roots: 'Cornelia', 'Moonlight', 'Penelope', 'Thisbe', 'Vanity', 'Francesca', plus a couple of mysteries, and they all look okay. I developed a theory about my soil ph by seeing what grew and what didn't grow. No acidophile plants grew: not a one: no camellias, no rhododendrons, no blueberries. Kerria japonica is a rare exception, but it does get chlorosis at times. On the other hand, the plants that do grow well for me are the ones the Hillier guide to trees and shrubs says are good over chalk: barberries, buddleias, box, eleagnus, euonymos, forsythia, bay laurel, ligustrum, lonicera, mahonia, mock orange, etc. etc. Not that we have chalk, but chalk soils ought to be alkaline. (Correct, Ann?) Our soil is gray clay that's concrete when dry and glue when wet. So I don't know what's going on. Is there some other reason I can't grow acidophile plants aside from soil ph? Do these plants mostly hate clay? Do they have to be watered, but loath the water we have to give them? There are other plants I have trouble with for unclear reasons: Osmanthus (tea olive)is one. As for the roses, is the soil just not alkaline like I thought? Or do the roses love the tons of compost, hay and practically nothing else, that we give them? Do they actually benefit in some respects by not being irrigated?? Are their seasons of growth such that they are most active in periods when soil conditions favor the uptake of iron? Or is there some chlorosis and I'm just not familiar enough with it to recognize it? I know I could get the soil ph tested, but this is more fun. Technology offers benefits, obviously, but it can never take the place of looking and thinking. Melissa

Thanks for the extra info, folks, and I'm definitely primed and ready to convince Braveheart to survive, Kate. Betty Boop does sound like the right height, peachymomo, so that can fill one of the taller rose spots near Watercolors, and ooh, ooh, put Carlin's Rhythm on the other side! Kim - I presume this one has some height on it from the picture you show (or is that just California). Either way it's a lovely rose and one to be proud of. Thanks for the info on Tamango - it's interesting that the cross of two fairly undramatic roses like that and Iceberg could have the wow impact of Heart 'n' Soul, and then produce the dark beauty of Stormy Weather as a grandchild - part of the fun of breeding I'm sure, but given the work you've obviously done to mark your crosses on the rose hips it puts the idea of "fun" into a different light. Chardie, you definitely got some great advice on Lady Elsie May and she's repaid you well in blooms! I agree that she really doesn't rest and earns her keep. Beth, I await with baited breath the intriguing shrubs that I'm sure you have in your yard. And Donald, I am very glad that you enjoy my nattering on about roses enough to want more of it, but I'm such a technology dinosaur the very idea of a blog makes me put my hands over my ears going "lalala". Besides, the main time I put out much writing is usually when I'm supposed to be doing something else, so I wouldn't want the obligations of a blog - I'll enjoy the ones by Paul Zimmerman and Sherry and others and just chime in here now and then. Cynthia

These old repeat-blooming Ramblers are a treat. We're growing one here that was collected at the Empire Mine State Historic Park in Grass Valley, CA. One of the few roses surviving from the original 19th-Century gardens, it is study-named "Ladyfingers," and the little baby plants here are beginning a second flush of bloom. I want to put one of them up our big seedling avocado tree, where 'Silver Moon' has been less-than-spectacular. Jeri