I don't know about other two, but Perle d'Or did very well for me whole summer, regardless hot/dry and wet/cold, rather stable performing rose here. I will have to see how he does over the winter, but so far he does not seem to have any issues with our storms (although that means occasional drowning after heavy rain on this blasted clay).

I grew both Perle d'Or and Mrs Oakley Fisher very successfully in Santa Fe--a dry zone 5. I grow them both here in VA as well, but Mrs Oakley has had more problems. I lost my first one because she BS so badly she couldnt survive the damp cold and late freeze. This year my second attempt contracted RRD which was blown upslope from the multiflora down at the bottom of my property. P d'Or is along the same wind corridor but didn't catch it. I planted her the same time I planted my first Mrs Oakley. So, there's the difference. I'll probably try a third Mrs Oakley because I love her, but I'll be more than very careful where I put her.

I grow a row of 8 Perle d'Or roses that do very well here. I water them about every three weeks in the dry summers. While we sometimes get light frost it just doesn't get as cold here as it does for you. We do get strong winds in the winter. Twice I've had poorly anchored trees uprooted, which gives you a clue as to just how strong. (One of them fell onto the roof about 90 seconds after my son climbed into the upper story window because he forgot his house key. That was an exciting day.)

Rosefolly

Perle d'Or does VERY well in the Sacramento Historic Rose Garden. There are, I think, four of them in different spots. They are wonderful plants!

Perle d'Or is one of those roses you find over and over, in old, un-cared-for cemeteries. What looks like a delicate beauty is in reality as tough as nails.
The same seems to apply to most of the roses that Vintage groups with Perle d'Or as "Poly-Teas," and I love all of them.

Jeri in Coastal SoCal

elemire, catsrose, Paula, organic tosca, Jeri,
Thanks to you all for the feedback! Now, where am I going to put that somewhat delicate 'Mrs. Oakley Fisher'? Also, no one grows 'Tipsy Imperial Concubine'? She and MOF are the ones I've never grown before, while the 'Perle d'Or' baby is from a cutting from my own plant, which has been in the garden for several years. In its case, I was mainly interested in how it would respond to cold air currents in the wintertime. It is a lovely rose (though mine needs to have some of the old growth cleared out), and I've particularly noticed its fine fragrance this fall as I weeded around it.
Melissa

hi melissa, well mrs OF had better be tough since it is on my list for next spring. Regarding TIC, my friend grows this and although it is still only a year old, it is shaping up to be a little winner. All these china types seem to have an innate toughness despite their twiggily fragile looking growth. Hers came from Beales, who highly recommend this rose...and, I think it will do well in your area since they got theirs from some rose breeder in S. of France, I think (Hazel Rougetel). I too am watching with interest as I have had an eye for this rose for a couple of years.
Have you thought anymore about the sacramento rose - stellata mirifica? Might be a winner for you. Also, am wondering how some of the new hulthemias might do for you also. Just ordered another myself, Alissar, Princess of :Persia -good name or what?

Tipsy Imperial Concubine has been strong growing for me and not badly diseased, though we get very little powdery mildew here. It does ball in wet weather. Often the first spring flush is lost.

Melissa, I hope you don't mind, can I get a size range on folk's Perle d'Or bushes that have somewhat cold winters ie growing season of April-Nov and also any comments about less than a full day of snow?

I have 2 Tipsy's but they are less than a year old. I would say they are tough since they easily made it through our horribly hot summer. I've only had one bloom so far and it was to die for. I've got them both in prime spots so am expecting alot from them, so we'll see.

I have Perl D'or and it is VERY tough; very easy to grow in my climate, and gets very large.

I'm in the desert so don't get much disease except some mildew in the spring. It's just hot hot hot.

Hope this help.

Sounds like I'm one lucky gardener! I have some more roses to ask about in another thread: it's planting time and I have a lot of rooted cuttings of varieties I'm not acquainted with.

Suzy, Pam, jaspermplants, thanks! Lagomorphmom, ask away, that's fine.

Suzy, Oh yes I'm interested; I'm just appallingly lazy about ordering roses this year.

Melissa