msrose, if you want to see them in bloom, they most likely will have another celebration in October when the roses will have their fall flush.

Here's Marianna Greene's article from the Dallas Morning News: Some of my garden roses are putting on a fall show, though I dare not look at them directly for fear of inviting bad luck. I marveled at their prolific beauty last June, even puffed out my chest a bit � as if I had anything to do with the extravagant display. Then there was the historic hailstorm in June, shattering blossoms and breaking branches. Some rosebushes were split in half. I gave up gardening, but my despondency lasted only a few weeks. I tried to bandage my wounded soldiers and amputated a few limbs. But I have been lovingly feeding and watering them all summer, talking sweetly to them, if you must know, and most are bouncing back, rewarding me with a few big, full, fragrant flowers. I do not spend my money on a rose that does not smell like a rose. My garden roses are mainly old hybrids whose history goes back to long-established Texas cottage gardens, abandoned farmsteads and old cemeteries. I can bury my face in a newly opened rose and swoon. If you are a rose gardener or wish to try cultivating them, Saturday holds unusual opportunity. Farmers Branch is holding its Celebration of Roses all day, featuring three presentations, a silent auction of young roses from a highly regarded nursery in California, and the Farmers Branch public gardens filled with roses in their fall flush. One of the speakers, Gregg Lowery, has devoted more than two decades to propagating old roses at his Vintage Gardens (vintagegardens.com) in Sebastopol, Calif. His current special project is to bring recently rediscovered heirloom French roses that had been lost to the nursery trade to American gardens. Like the cottage roses brought with farm wives and others colonizing Texas, Lowery�s selections have long histories. "France was the source of most of the old roses we grow today in our gardens," Lowery says in an email. "In the 19th century, it was the home of the world�s great rose-makers. In their efforts to create new roses that bloomed continually, they worked with a group of roses imported from China, the China and tea roses." In 2013, many old roses from France, grown from cuttings at Vintage Gardens for two years under U.S. quarantine, will be shipped to customers across the United States who reserved them when Lowery made the offer known. "The collectors of old roses and nursery people in France have in the past few years rediscovered a wealth of old tea roses, early hybrid teas, Chinas and noisettes," Lowery says. "We were keen to see these get into the hands of American gardeners, as the groups are recognized for their suitability to the South and the West, where many rose growers reside." Because these French roses are still under quarantine, Lowery cannot bring them to Texas yet. He will lecture about these roses, representing "some of the greatest rose hybridizers in the history of the rose." He has donated other rarely seen roses from his nursery to a silent auction to benefit the Farmers Branch rose gardens. This is the shopping opportunity: "Some of the very special roses," Lowery says, "include the single yellow Banksia rose, Rosa banksiae �Lutescens�; a foundling hybrid gigantea (these are giant ramblers related to the tea roses) known as the Santa Clara University Cemetery No. 16, a rose that resembles a massive �Gloire de Dijon�; and �Reine Marie Pia,� a climbing tea rose with double pink flowers, quite fragrant," among others. The silent auction will open at noon Saturday and close at 4 p.m., with bids starting at $15. Dr. William Welch from Texas A&M University, author of Antique Roses for the South and the new Heirloom Gardening in the South, will talk about Southern heirloom plants and gardens. His co-author on the 2012 book, Greg Grant, also will speak. Grant, a seventh-generation Texan, has restored his grandparents� dogtrot farmhouse in Arcadia, near Nacogdoches, and planted flowers and shrubs suitable to its age and style. In addition to tours of the Farmers Branch rose gardens, the Dallas Rose Society will have its fall rose show from 12:30 to 4:30 p.m. Free registration, which includes a lunch of hot dogs, will be in the Gussie Field Watterworth Park pavilion beginning at 10:30 a.m. Parking will be available at City Hall, 13000 William Dodson Parkway. Shuttles will move through the gardens, and master gardeners will be available for questions. For more details, see fbroses.com.

Jess: Before you closed this thread and start a new one, I went through this thread again, specially the posts done in Feb. The size of bushes planted in Jan 16 (ie, just a month or so earlier than when you took the photos) is enormous. Some of them are unbelievably big for a bush that has just been planted just a month earlier. That's absolutely remarkable. What was the size and age of bushes when you planted them? When we buy grafted roses here, they are 5-7 months old grafts and the plants is just tiny with a strong centifolia root stock but mostly one single stem coming out of the graft (they are generally grafted on Rosa centifolia or Bengal Rose which is Rosa chinensis, in Jul / Jun previous year, during monsoon season). Nurseries try to grow them as big as possible by giving them a high doze of nitrogen and phosphorus based fertilizers but afterall, how big can they get in 5-7 months!! Really very impressed to see the size of your bushes and I am not sure it's gypsum and potash alone that has done it. There may be more to it, in addition to gypsum and potash... best regards

@magizz I had an almost identical scenario as you with Edmunds this year (today). I ordered my roses super early, they took my money (unlike Amazon, who does not charge you until they finalize and ship the actual order), and then I was notified months later that three of my roses were cancelled due to "crop failure." I understand (now) that this is how some mail order nurseries often work, but I think it's bad form to sell a product and collect people's money before you have the product in stock. It's a kind of deception (in my opinion). So they potentially gets hundreds or thousands of people's cash up front to fund their operations and get them thru the winter, and then, when they no longer need the $$$ they are able to refund our orders of roses. I am such a pessimist right now. Anyway, the money was refunded from the cancelled roses. Fine. I took a few days to review my remaining order and determined that because of the roses that were cancelled (by them), my design plans wouldn't work anymore, and I asked if they could cancel two additional roses (I still have several coming that I was not interested in cancelling). They wrote me back within minutes to say that my order is already being processed and they cannot do that. But of course when I asked when my roses were being shipped, they give me a two month range. So they can obviously cancel on their end, no problem, at any stage of the game, but we cannot modify our order after that whatsoever. I sent a remarkably kind response suggesting that they give folks a window to adjust their order further if Edmunds cancels anything so that we can get what we really want. I spent over $400 on this year's carefully crafted order. I can wait until next year to finish the design, but it is all so frustrating, and I feel deceived. And don't bother trying to return a product. They won't refund you--only give you a credit voucher for a future rose purchase (which will also likely be cancelled due to 'crop failure'). Compare that to the experience of buying bands from A Reverence for Roses or Rogue Valley Roses--they only sell what they have in stock, and it arrives looking great (albeit the wrong rose often with RVR hahaha, a different conversation). Heirloom also sells product they have and don't make it available unless it's sellable. I'm hoping that what I do receive is GREAT quality. Otherwise, that's it for me and Edmunds. Thanks for listening to my rant. Gonna pour myself a glass of wine now. :)