going to be loading my car as well soon, just in case we get some rain - I would like everything to be in there, I have other things I did not mention before - plants that is, that I am bringing too- sure there will be people there who are just starting- and I started doing clippings and now have way too many of some things out here.

Jill, thank you so much for your reply. That "Keith's B-N" is one beautiful little rose. I didn't find it on HMF--will it appear there? I assume it is not available at all (yet)? I can only imagine what it must feel like to discover an unknown old rose--and such a lovely, fragrant one, wow. I was very taken with General Schablikine, so #3 is probably him. I wasn't really intending to take photos, and I normally would have been more careful about snapping pix of the IDs, but I was so overwhelmed by the roses, also the heat!, and I just kept drifting around, often in circles, just drawn to the next beauty that caught my eye. There were some roses that I ended up visiting numerous times, zigzagging around the garden. I look forward to another visit and can't wait to see the spring bloom next year. Sheba

When you say plant, do you mean planting them in-ground? If so, then you will need to prepare the environment every well as far as sun/shade/wind/moisture protection for them to survive. Do you have photo of cuttings? Where location/direction wise are you planning to plant them? Most experts here have their plants in pots and move them inside during winter time. Disclaimer: I am a newbie and only sharing what I have learned and from my limited experience at the moment. There are a lot of great growers on here with vast knowledge and experience. They can give you more info: Aileen - aileenrdh Toshi - Kawagoe (Home of SF 49ers Santa Clara CA Boom - Boom (SoCal)(11) Laura - Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia I am sure other experts will chime in but I will share my experience as this is my first season with cuttings and seedlings too. I am in San Jose and my seedlings and cuttings have been doing OK outside. With that said, I have always planned to have my plumeria inside protected from cold/wet during winter/raining season in our area. I just rooted some cuttings about 1-2 month and they just rooted and seeing leaves sprouted. For one that has 3 leaves I have been leaving it out side under filtered sunlight I have in backyard that has walls on three sides and an opening which I have one of those outdoor curtain/shade from store for wind/sun protection so that space can heat up well during day and stay "warmer" at night. It does not get down below 50 degrees at night so far. During the day it ranges from 70-100. I keep close eye on it though. For the ones that is barely showing leave sprouts, I take them in at night and put them on heat mat. I do this to quicken rooting and leaf development. I sunbathe them on hot days outside under filter light though. To simulate tropicalness, I have also been putting them inside a 50 gallon trash bin which has multiple holes as I was using them before for hot composting. I have not cooked them yet :). I would proceed with caution on this. I have been careful on placement and how much sun/heat the trash bin gets. I am sure there are more elegant way but this is what I have so experimenting with. A board member on here Boom gave me two saplings which I have been leaving outside and they are doing well in same space. They have grown multiple leaves in the last month. But I plan to bring them in as soon as the weather gets colder. Toshi - Kawagoe (Home of SF 49ers Santa Clara CA has only one plumeria (Celedine) in-ground. The rest he has in big pots which he shelters them with carport and canopy during winter for cold/wet protection. He is great guy and can offer more tips and/or give you a tour of his setup. Hope that helps a little. Again, newbie so take what I said with a grain of salt :). What cultivars do you have? Please upload photo so we can see. Thanks.

Well, as you all know our wonderful plant swap has been put on hold. But while waiting for things to settle down so we can meet again this is a fun read from Felder Rushing's blog; Plant Swap Treasures: Pssst! I got jewels of Opar and a string of pearls… wanna make a deal? Among other neat things he talks about is the back story of the common name for Talinum paniculatum. Wow! I'm a Tarzan fan from the old comic book days and I never knew that! Happy gardening! :-)