Josue,

You are lucky to have nice warm weather in Fresno at least for Plumeria at least. Where did you get your seeds from?

KC, would love to see how your plumeria look potted if you have done it already...

I guess in that regard i am pretty lucky :P It's hard to see it that way when we have week-long spells of 110F.

I picked seeds from a yellow/white flowered tree in Anaheim. We stayed there with friends at an Airbnb, and there was a massive plumeria tree in the front yard. It had ripe seed and flowers, so I took several pods from it.

I see. Hopefully no camera to see you ;p... awesome that you got seeds to grow... impressive... love to see photos of your babies...

Andre, here you go! I was even thinking of it bringing it on Saturday to show you both!!

looks awesome... photos are good... don't want to risk spilling/shocking it... make sure that potting mix/soil/pot is well drained... if holes are not big enough or not a lot of them, then you may want to make more to make sure good drainage...if temp drops below 50 at night... consider bringing it inside especially now to it recovers from recent potting... just my thoughts... may not be feasible as too heavy... but definitely fall/winter make sure protect it well or not risking it and bring it inside... ask experts here and Toshi on Saturday

Thanks, Andre! I had my son drill three hole at the bottom about a pencil thickness each. Enough? It's not too heavy now, but I don't think we will drop much below 60 at night for now! Need to think about later in the year, when we still have the day time heat, but the nights start dropping! Do you think a covered porch won't be enough? Definitely plan on asking Toshi for advice, will I see you there?

KC

Andre, they are against a south-west facing corner. They will get full sun from about 1 to sunset, and I was thinking that if they like that spot, I might rig up a greenhouse like plastic drape for the cold season. It would be cool to eventually plant it in the ground!

By the way, when I transplanted it, it had about 4 or 5 thread like roots and nothing else!! I was shocked, they must have rooted larger branches to make them look like they had grown to that size!!

Yeah, let's ask Toshi on Saturday but I think you need more drainage. I am not taking chances with mine and will bring them inside as they are small. Even when they get big, I still want ability to bring them inside or have really good protection like what you are planning to do. I am sure as winter gets close there will be questions about overwintering if not from us :)

Hi! I didn't read thru the whole thing but just wanted to add that Toshi is awesome. My aunt and I got to meet Toshi and his collection of plumeria. They were gorgeous! My aunt got a few cuttings and I got what I was looking for at the moment. If I didn't move I would be knocking at his door for more.

Happy growing!

Ann, Thank
you. Are you moved to New Orleans? Nice town. Close to where I grow
up (Alabama). I am not sure I can stand the heat and humidity down
there, now. Enjoy the Cajon foods and ready
for football season. I went to Auburn so
I cannot cheer the LSU…..

Andre, these are my two seedlings.

Nice work... Did u purposely cut tip on one to promote two tips? What are you doing to promote growth?

No, that's winter damage. The larger one lost it's leaves, and this smaller one died back a bit last winter. I kept them dry, and I think that helped them survive our cold, wet winter - well, that and fast draining soil. I use a multi-purpose, 'bloom booster' type of fertilizer, and some mycorrhizae to stimulate root growth. I use it on all of my potted plants and have had good results with it.

Unfortunately, these recently lost all of their leaves recently when I moved them to a shadier spot to protect them from afternoon sun. It looks like they're replacing those leaves pretty quickly though.

Went to Kawagoe (Toshi) home for a wonderful tour today. Got to see a variety of bloom and learned quite a bit. Also met KC and her daughter. Wonderful ladies. If you want some cuttings Kawagoe (Toshi) can set you up with some and learn a whole lot. I highly recommend it. KC congrats on the new babies and toddler ;). I will have your worm bin ready when in September.

Josue, thanks for sharing about the soil and fertilizer. Keep updating us on your babies.

Andre, Toshi, it was so lovely to meet you both! Toshi's collection is fabulous and he was so kind to share his bounty with me! So lovely to meet such wonderful people and get the benefit of their expertise!

Some of the blooms that Toshi was sweet enough to give us!

KC and Toshi, with everything happening recently, I am gratify to have met you both. Little corny but I wish everyone grows plumerias and share their love for it then humanity will be OK :). I met a lot of good Karma people already on this board.

Hello Toshi, I did not see this string of messages until a few minutes ago. I would have loved an invitation to your Saturday get-together. If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to see your plumeria collection sometime. I might live quite close to you. I even went to Saturday's preseason 49er game. Sigh........

Aileen, You will enjoy tour of Toshi's plumeria. Sorry about the Niners. Hopefully, they will clean up the turnovers. I would love to get a group going in the Bay Area to continue to share whether here online and/or in person. I have already met Toshi, KC, and Boom from here already. Josue is in Fresno.

Andre, that's a great idea! I have neither the plants nor the expertise to share, but I would love to get together with fellow gardeners!

Aileenrdh, Sure, After work Monday and Wednesday 5 pm or Saturday is fine.

49ers still need lots of work to do to be champion team again.

Hi all of you! So glad to be in touch with you all. I can totally make this Wednesday after work. Do I seem overly anxious? I could actually even make today! How do I receive your address, Toshi? Wednesday will be perfect for me!

I have 24 plumeria plants.

Anyone keeping up with the Little League World Series? Dave Fleming from our Giants is broadcasting.......

Aileen

Aileen,

No, you are not anxious. I know exactly what you mean :). Wow, 24 plants. That's awesome. Would love to see some photos of them.

I don't have many plants. Just 3 cuttings I started which I ordered online before knowing about Toshi and his awesome plumerias. I also got two seedlings from a really nice person here. I have one plan my sister-in-law gave me all the way from TX. I want to grow everything of course but trying to be discipline and learn as much as I can from all the experts here.

I did watch a little bit of the Japanese and S. Korea. That was a really good game.

Aileen, contact me through private message. I can be home before 5 pm today also. Wednesday is okay now.

If you go to the other Houzz discussion "Plumeria in Northern CA", I have a picture from 2016 ( ~15 plants) which shows my growth last year. I have more leaves this year.

The LLWS game on right now with Italy and Michigan is pretty exciting. 7-7. Not quite as exciting as our plumeria though! ;-)

Aileen

Aileen, beautiful blooms. I love the shape of the top bloom. Envy. Envy. I will definitely check out the photos of your other babies.

Hi everyone! I don't know how to do private messaging.......

Aileen,

I think you can click on person's name and then option to send them private message. Try it and let me know if you still have issues.

André, I couldn't send you a private message but I may have sent Toshi one. I won't know until I hear back.

Aileen, if you click on their profile and see a MESSAGE button that means they accpet private messages. If not, then you need to communicate with them here and figure out how to connect with each other.

I live far from you all, so I don't think I'd be able to meet up - But I look forward to sharing my success and failures with you all. Maybe you can start a group on facebook to be able to share a bit easier.

Josue, definitely continue to share especially progress of your babies. Yeah, at some point it may be good to go to something like Facebook but our circle is pretty small right now and I kinda like this board right now but I am open to any way we can continue to share. Love see all the photos so I am encouraged and see hope that my plants will get there :)...

Andre, KC,

Guess what, just down the street from where I work has landscape business and they sold me large black containers for really cheap. I got 10 pots yesterday. If you want one, please let me know. Must be 15 to 20 gals size black pot.

Yes, please!! That would be fantastic!

KC

Toshi, that's awesome. I am good for now.

Andre, I will be meeting with Toshi today. Would you mind if he shares your email address with me? I wasn't able to find a MESSAGE button for you or Josue.

I go to LA quite often and had not seen pods on the plumeria trees. After seeing Josue's seedlings, I'd like to try that.

Aileen, you will see baby formed seed pods on one of my plumeria plant. Somehow only this plant produced seed pods.

Toshi, you can share my email address with Aileen.

Aileen, I changed my settings so that you could message me. Andre, you'll have to go into your advanced settings on your account and change the option to allow anyone to message you, OR you can allow people you follow to message you, but you'd have to follow Aileen in order for her to send you messages.

And yes! The particular tree I got my seed from in downtown Anaheim had lots of seed pods. Most were already opened and the seeds had blown away in the wind. A lot of the seed was on the lawn around the tree, and it had several pods still in varying stages of development.

Josue, thanks for tip on the advanced settings. I changed it so anyone can message me now. thanks.

Thank you, Josue, André and KC........Toshi is on his way to my place to see my plants and then we'll go to see his plants after that. We live about 5 min. from each other. I have a surprise for him.......I'll tell you all about it later. I'll email you.........

Aileen, not fair. We want to be surprise also...

Aileen, do you have my email! I want to know about the surprise too!!

KC

When you say plant, do you mean planting them in-ground? If so, then you will need to prepare the environment every well as far as sun/shade/wind/moisture protection for them to survive. Do you have photo of cuttings? Where location/direction wise are you planning to plant them?

Most experts here have their plants in pots and move them inside during winter time.

Disclaimer: I am a newbie and only sharing what I have learned and from my limited experience at the moment. There are a lot of great growers on here with vast knowledge and experience. They can give you more info:

Aileen - aileenrdh

Toshi - Kawagoe (Home of SF 49ers Santa Clara CA

Boom - Boom (SoCal)(11)

Laura - Loveplants2 8b Virginia Beach, Virginia

I am sure other experts will chime in but I will share my experience as this is my first season with cuttings and seedlings too. I am in San Jose and my seedlings and cuttings have been doing OK outside. With that said, I have always planned to have my plumeria inside protected from cold/wet during winter/raining season in our area.

I just rooted some cuttings about 1-2 month and they just rooted and seeing leaves sprouted. For one that has 3 leaves I have been leaving it out side under filtered sunlight I have in backyard that has walls on three sides and an opening which I have one of those outdoor curtain/shade from store for wind/sun protection so that space can heat up well during day and stay "warmer" at night. It does not get down below 50 degrees at night so far. During the day it ranges from 70-100. I keep close eye on it though. For the ones that is barely showing leave sprouts, I take them in at night and put them on heat mat. I do this to quicken rooting and leaf development. I sunbathe them on hot days outside under filter light though. To simulate tropicalness, I have also been putting them inside a 50 gallon trash bin which has multiple holes as I was using them before for hot composting. I have not cooked them yet :). I would proceed with caution on this. I have been careful on placement and how much sun/heat the trash bin gets. I am sure there are more elegant way but this is what I have so experimenting with.

A board member on here Boom gave me two saplings which I have been leaving outside and they are doing well in same space. They have grown multiple leaves in the last month. But I plan to bring them in as soon as the weather gets colder.

Toshi - Kawagoe (Home of SF 49ers Santa Clara CA has only one plumeria (Celedine) in-ground. The rest he has in big pots which he shelters them with carport and canopy during winter for cold/wet protection. He is great guy and can offer more tips and/or give you a tour of his setup.

Hope that helps a little. Again, newbie so take what I said with a grain of salt :). What cultivars do you have? Please upload photo so we can see. Thanks.

I just mean rooting them in pots. I have a couple growing already which rooted earlier in the summer but I was wondering what other Bay Area growers thought. I assume it will take 6-10 weeks so I wasn't sure if I should just put it off until next year.

If you do not have setup inside to encourage growth like heat/growth lamp and mat to keep temperature optimal, then you maybe should wait until temperature is optimal so you can have plant outside once rooted next season. I was given some cuttings recently so I had to root them and will grow them outside as long as possible then move them inside with heat mat and grow lamp until next season.

Hello Everyone!

This link I posted on winter Storage ( Plumeria ) might help!!

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/4837305/winter-storage-preparations-for-those-in-cold-climates?n=13

Take care..

Laura

That is a great post/article. A must read for any grower. Thanks Laura.