Chamblee's tea purchases
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Nay explains Chamblee's names - especially Lovers Delite
Comments (17)Chamblee's description of "Lover's Delite" is: "Found" Tea rose. Whatever it may be, "Lover's Delite" is not a Tea rose. I say that with 100 percent certainty. I bought the rose from Chamblees and have grown it for four years (unless I tossed it last year). I also grow 45 different varieties of Tea roses, more or less at any one time. A number are found roses. "Lover's Delite" has nothing in common with the Tea class. The color is not tea color, the bloom form is not a Tea form, the canes are not Tea canes, the foliage is not Tea foliage, the prickles are not Tea prickles, the growth habit is not Tea growth habit, and the scent is not Tea scent. Therefore, "Lover's Delite" is not a Tea. As for "information on the internet" sullying the reputations of growers... I did not originate the questions about the identity of "Lover's Delite." I did convey the above information to Chamblees by email years ago, well before it appeared "on the internet" other than on this forum. They never responded or acknowledged my email in any way. I am sure they are very busy and can't respond to every email they get. They do respect the study names given by the finder of a rose, and I applaud that. In the interest of accuracy, tho, I also believe it is unwise to call "Lover's Delite" a Tea rose when it so clearly is not. Once a rose has been identified, I also consider it imperative to mention the accepted name. The information from David Austin's USA operations is incomplete. You can confirm for yourselves that Fisherman's Friend can be bought at no fewer than 10 nurseries that supply the USA. Fisherman's Friend was listed with six different Northern American suppliers as long ago as the 1990 Combined Rose List: Heirloom Roses in Oregon, Hortico, Limberlost Roses, Pickerings, Rose Acres, and Yesterday's Rose. I do not suggest that Chamblees is trying to mislead anyone. I'm sure their hearts are pure. I am suggesting that anyone who buys this rose as a Tea rose should check the facts for themselves. That way they won't be surprised when they receive a violet purple pink, old-rose scented, muddled but old fashioned bloom on a plant with viciously thorny canes with both prickles and acicles and modern foliage that rusts. Chamblees won't be the first person to be fooled by Austin roses. Our heritage roses groups of knowledgeable, honest rosarians collected a lovely, quartered, highly scented, thorny, repeat blooming rose with Portland-like foliage from two different Gold Country locations, including on one old grave. We have almost certainly identified that rose as Gertrude Jekyll....See MoreChamblee's Haul! How big do they get for you?
Comments (15)cweathersby, why didn't you go for an even 20??? Just kidding! My goodness, you hit the jackpot. What a beautiful selection. My roses are still young, and I'm in a zone with a longer season so nothing much that I say will be relevant, I guess. I have: Mrs. BR Cant - she's 3 yrs old and on Fortuniana so I won't bother to say anything but I'm really liking her since I pruned her (first time) last month. She's got buds! Her pruned size is about 5x5+. I'm very excited about her this year. Monsieur Tillier - Between planting in March, 2008 and the end of the year he shot up to 5'. He hasn't gotten much taller but he's gotten wider. Right now he has a few big basal breaks that you can almost watch grow - and flower buds. Climbing SDLM (can it be free standing??) - I just put my 1-gallon plant in the ground last Sept. It's got a new basal break so I guess it's happy. I planned to grow it on a pillar - very horizontally. It never occurred to me to grow it as a bush. I have the bush planted very nearby plus I planted clematis Henryii on the other side of the post to fill in with flowers during SdlM's flowerless times. Mrs. Dudley Cross - This rose starts out slowly growth-wise and bloom-wise plus I found her flowers to look nothing like the photos (she's a year old now). Linda at Rose Petals Nursery said hers did the same thing. I think she'll be 5' tall or less. Maman Cochet - Mine is about 1-1/2 yrs old and not real big yet, but she looks like she's filling out. Be patient with your teas. Many of them will look gangly - and ugly - for a good while. Your garden is going to be lovely for sure. Take before and after photos, OK? Sherry...See MoreVisit to ARS Center & Garden and Chamblee's Rose Nursery
Comments (13)Wellrounded, Early on you asked about Noisettes. FWIW my experiences in a zone6-7 growing environment is that the simpler noisettes (as opposed to the tea noisettes) are stronger through winter than HTs. I grow Chinas and Rosa moschata. The chinas have little winter damage; R. moschata likes the warmer area (up by the house) and tolerates with slow growth the bottom of the hill which I've measured as five to seven degrees colder in difficult winters. The smaller blooming single and semidouble and double noisettes put on good size in my gardens. They keep their older canes through winter although they will loose canes put out in late fall. In a warmer area downstream, down the river in Knoxville, with some kind of heat island from the city plus many, many cars going by each day, a tea noisette (Duch. de Auerstadt) had great growth and bloom. Mine from the same source struggles. If you grow Chinas easily, it's worth trying the simpler noisettes as well as R. moschata (for its fragrance and elegance). If you're in an area with great heat (for your zone) and most of your HT canes make it through almostall winters, try a tea noisette or two. Much luck, they are worth the effort....See MoreJust got back from Chamblee's
Comments (26)Ruth, sorry for the late reply - I've been out building a new rose bed! Mike B. (from here on Gardenweb) cut down a few trees in the back (some dead dogwoods, a small pine, and a nut tree that had the misfortune of being INSIDE the fence ), cleared out some wayward shrubs, and established a nice sun area for me. I moved a massive beautyberry after admitting that it WAS in the wrong place . Anyway, most of my little roses were literally strangled by my crinums, but I love my Folksinger and Sunbonnet Sue. I love the color on Winter Sunset, and it seems to be thriving. The dogs have broken off Distant Drums, which I also love, and I seem to have lost my Enchanted Autumn :(, but managed to move the others over to the new bed (and I am forgetting one or two of them). I had to buy El Catala - it's red with a silvery-white back - don't know how it will perform but it was outstanding, and at $5 for a 2-gallon I was thrilled. I am spending more on the organic amendments going in the holes... My lesson learned is that 1-gallon roses won't stand up to crinums out here in east Texas....See Morewild_rose_of_texas
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