2008 Roses in Review Survey

15 years ago

It is time for the annual Roses in Review (RIR), the American Rose Society's (ARS) annual survey of roses. Results from the "Garden" evaluations are used as the ratings in the ARS "Handbook for Selecting Roses". Participation in the RIR process is open to EVERYONE! Membership in the ARS or a local rose society is not required.

The 2008 RIR survey is available in the July/August issue of American Rose (the magazine for members of the ARS). The survey can be filled out on-line (please, please, please fill it out on-line!), check out the RIR web site. If you would like a printable copy of the survey, please send me an e-mail, (hiptownrose2 at aol dot com).

Although you have to register to submit the form on-line, the information is used to allow you to come back at a later time to add more ratings and also to assist the RIR coordinators in preparing the final reports. The information is deleted after the data is sent to the coordinators and you will not receive SPAM.

On-line and paper forms must be submitted on or before September 26, 2008, to be included in this yearÂs results. This year the survey will include not only recent introductions, but also older roses of interest that do not currently have a rating.

Remember, the RIR survey process is open to everyone! So, please take a few minutes to complete the survey and feel free to ask your rose-growing friends to participate!

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Maryl (Okla. Zone 7a)
15 years ago
I'm so glad you posted this. I got my ARS mag with the varieties and was just waiting for you or Phil to post the link here so that I could get my say in. I hope this thread doesn't get buried, because I want everyone to participate. I so enjoy reading the reviews when they come out. I can't tell you how much $$ they have saved me over the years. I keep each years review and if I become interested in a rose years later I will have an additional source of information about it. Another reason to belong to the ARS. Thanks Diane.
karl_bapst_rosenut
15 years ago
Thank you Diane.
Until you posted this I had completely forgotten about RIR. I went to the site and quickly completed my yearly rose evaluations.
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Karl is right, as usual. We opened the survey up to anyone some time back. There are plenty of non-ARS members who grow roses and can do a good job of evaluating them, so why not get the advantage of their experience? By the way, we also have posted the results for the last several years on the ARS website so anyone can see them. It seems only fair that if we are going to ask non-members to report, they should be able to see the results. When you are using the online survey and you accidently hit the wrong name, you can just go back to the list and pick the right one. The system will remind you that you didn't file a report for the last one, but it will let you move on without it. Decobug, if the list of your reviews show Alan Titchmarsh, but without any ratings for it, we will drop it. If it does show a rating that you don't want, give me your name or email address and we'll delete it.
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Please do participate. As national chair of Roses in Review I opened it up to everyone several years ago so we could get input from all rose growers. We are trying to help all rose growers with the survey, and we need as much input as we can get. I would love to see the day where we get as many reporters from non-ARS members as we do from ARS members. Then we would really have a good cross-section of opinion. C'mon, give it a try. It's easy and it's fast. Just go to www.ars.org, click on the survey in the upper right part of the screen, sign in and go to it. Thanks.
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Maryl, I will try to include the color class of the roses in the RIR survey report this time. However, I think you may be laboring under some false assumptions. For one, the ARS is no more my organization that it is yours. I am simply a dues paying member who volunteers his time to run the RIR survey. The same is true for the district RIR coordinators who receive the reports for their districts. None of your dues money is going to pay for it. The ARS could triple my salary and it still wouldn't be enough to buy a piece of penny candy (if there still is such a thing). Back when you remember the results showing color class and other goodies, the survey was run so the results from the 2008 version which just closed wouldn't be published until December of 2009 when the Annual came out. You should get the results now in the January 2009 magazine, which is much more timely. In order to do that, my district coordinators have about 19 days to put their district reports together and send them to me. Some of them have 200 reporters, so there is a lot of detail to handle. I then have 16 days to compile the 18 district reports into the national report and get it to Shreveport to include in the January magazine. We simply don't have the time to include all the little niceties the longer wait allowed for. We also are quite limited in space in the magazine, so it isn't easy to add things. However, I'll do my best to include the color class this year.
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Chris, you are welcome to send me the complete reorganization you have in mind. If you are concerned it might give Board members a coronary, then send it to me by email. My email address is available on this site. I promise you I won't have a coronary, even though I am on the Board. As to the three year terms of Board members, elections are expensive and time consuming. Holding them more often than every three years would mean we were spending an inordinate amount of time and effort on elections and less time on the business of the organization. I have to tell you I think such an approach would be counterproductive. However, I do agree the Board is too large and think we should have more effective limits on the number of consecutive years someone can serve on the Board. I am in my second term on the Board and it will be my last. If I can't get things done in six years, it's time for someone else to work on them. I'm not sure which big businesses you have dealt with, but I can tell you Boards of big businesses do not ask stockholders or anyone else for input before conducting the business of the company. I have seen them in action in their business meetings and they are less open than the ARS Board. Anyway, lay your suggestions on me and I will let you know what I think. The ARS is not perfect by any means and any ideas that will help will be welcomed.
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phil_schorr
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Please do participate in RIR. Diane is right - we would love to have everyone who grows roses participating in this annual aurvey. If you like helping others with their roses, this is a good way to do it. The results of this survey are what provides the ratings in the ARS Handbook for Selecting Roses. If you have any questions, feel free to let me know. Thanks.
moodyblue
15 years ago
Diane, I find this very interesting, maybe I have not read far enough into things. But does this include Canadian imput. It did say North Americans, so I am assuming,this includes Canucks. In other parts, it refers to Americans. So will go ahead when this is confirmed. Ta, everso!

Pauline - Vancouver Island.
diane_nj 6b/7a
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15 years ago
Pauline, yes, it includes Canadian (and other international) input. Fire away!
diane_nj 6b/7a
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15 years ago
Hello everyone. One last week to get in your ratings. Folks in PA & NJ, I would really appreciate a response. Send me an e-mail if you have any questions!

If you have already completed your survey, THANK YOU!!!

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