Jeri, will any of these do? I consider it a fairly typical China. Vigorous, heat-resistant. It does mildew somewhat if the weather is right. And while not bad for black spot, it does get more of it that one might expect of a China. Malcolm Here is a link that might be useful: My Carnation photos on flickr This post was edited by malcolm_manners on Fri, Feb 15, 13 at 0:52

Sherry -- sounds like you may have answered your own question -- yellow leaves, alkaline soil -- you could fix that! Acidify the soil with ferrous sulfate (a.k.a. iron sulfate or copperas) -- mix about a Tbsp per gallon in a bucket and wash in a couple gallons. Wait a couple days and measure the pH. If not as low as you want it, repeat the procedure until you get to under 7.0. Be careful with the stuff -- it oxidizes to make rust stains on sidewalks, cars, your new shoes, etc. If you get it on anything, rinse it off before it turns color. You can then maintain the lower pH by applying around a cup of sulfur (agricultural sulfur, flowers of sulfur, wettable sulfur, etc.) around the plant and scratching it into the top inch or so of soil. Yes, Tausendschoen is once-blooming. But the "once" is up to 7 months. Once the night temps get warm, it quits, and doesn't start again until we cool off. So we get no flowers June to December, usually. But when it flowers, it is continuous.

You know, when I first became aquainted with chinas, I wasn't real impressed. It was a holdover from my hybrid tea days. I now absolutely love them, and there is something really special about the Bermuda Mystery roses. I only have a couple of them so far, but plan on adding to my collection this fall. Every timeI look at my new Cramoisi Superieur I marvel over the beauty of this bush, and I have to do very little to keep him happy. I'm finding there are a few tough teas out there too. Madame Lombard seems to be a tough old gal, and she has pretty flowers. I read she is one that thrives in Bermuda also. So far she is a keeper here. I noticed the water level in our local lakes is very, very low. I've never seen them so low. We have had very little rain overall, in my area, this year. It's scary. I'd be curious to hear what roses you end up removing. I'm going to be taking a few Austins out. The Dark Lady is a fungus mess right now. Pretty jessica, who has been spotless, is also a mess. She's on a watch right now. Mutabilis lost a little foliage to some kind of crud, but still has the majority of his leaves and is still blooming and handsome looking. That's the difference between a china and some other stiff caned naked thing. Sandy

Yes, Ingrid -- We all think it is an HP . . . But WHAT HP it is, we don't know. Here's an article on the rose. As you'll see, the color is quite variable -- blooms can be anywhere from Jackie's "candy pink" to a true fuchsia ... depending upon environmental conditions. Plant them side-by-side, and they all bloom alike. http://www.goldcoastrose.org/articles/tromn.pdf