need a very hardy old rose with long canes or a climber
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how to prune old once blooming red rose climber...
Comments (8)There is a good possibility that your red climber is an old Dr. Huey and there's nothing wrong with that. He can put on a spectacular display! If that's what it is (a photo would help ID it) then you can probably prune him pretty low without much worry because he's a VERY vigorous grower! That's why he gets used as a root stock. But, like a lot of climbers, those bare bottom limbs are fairly common and will probably return. A lot of climbers do that because it takes a great deal of energy to send food up to the tips to leaf out and bloom. So to save some energy they stop producing leaves, laterals and blooms at the bottom. The way you train it makes a difference too. By sending it up that arbor you've created a long vertical stretch that doesn't produce lateral growth so it doesn't bloom. The wider, more horizontal, you can spread the limbs the more laterals, so the more blooms, you will get. That's the point of trellises, to spread the canes out sideways to create those laterals. It's also what "pegging" does. By bending the canes around in a circular manner you create horizontal areas that will produce lateral limbs and blooms. That's what's happening on your arbor. The long straight stretch up to the top doesn't produce the limbs for blooms but when it gets up to the top it lies horizontally across the arbor and grows side canes that bloom. My best suggestion would be to leave it alone and plant something shorter at the bottom to cover the bare legs....See MoreNeed a Zone 4 Hardy Climber !!!
Comments (4)North Creek Farm is near the coast and is in zone 5a or 5b. Any of her rugosas would do well if that's what you want, but some of the OGRs offered could be iffy in zone 4. Definitely William Baffin would be a hardy climber. I agree with New Dawn, in a bad winter you could lose a lot of cane or even have the rose die. The rest of the Canadian Explorers are very hardy if fragrance is not important to you....See Morevery vigorous, hardy, pest free rose climber?
Comments (12)To do what you want to do with your father's fence, I am going to suggest once-blooming ramblers. They are the absolute best, in my opinion, for doing exactly what your father is wanting to accomplish. My Rambler Fence has Wichurana ramblers planted on it, the likes of Alberic Barbier, Francois Juranville, Aviateur Bleriot, Paul Transon, Jean Guichard, and others. The fence itself is a 4-board pasture fence with a strand of wire installed between the boards to fasten the roses to. Canes are trained horizontally and I get thousands of flowers each spring. After the roses finish their annual show of flowers, the foliage is healthy and shiny and makes a great background to the tea roses planted in front of the ramblers. Another class of ramblers to look at are the Hybrid setigeras, like Baltimore Belle, Arcata Pink Globe, Queen of the Prairies, etc. These are also healthy and vigorous, spring-blooming, and they are happiest trained horizontally and allowed to drape. During the growing season, my ramblers are extremely care free. I take any new basal canes they produce and I flip them over the fence. Every couple of years in late winter, when the roses are bare and I can see their struture really well, I thin out the oldest canes and tie the newest ones into their permanent positions. I do not spray fungicide on my ramblers, and I do not spray insecticide in the garden at all. In this area of blackspot hell, my ramblers are very resistant and look good all year long. There's a blog post I did last year that has pictures ... I'll put the link below. Connie Here is a link that might be useful: The Rambler Fence...See MoreSecuring an Antique Rose Climber to an Old Dry Laid Stone Wall
Comments (5)Thank you, York Rose, You are right. A neighbor's tree shaded my rose, but the tree was taken down recently and the rose bloomed like crazy this month. I hope it will be happier now. Thanks, Sherry! Rebar-good idea. I certainly need something strong. I may try that. Hopefully I can do it in a fairly unobtrusive way. Another option is to attempt to transplant the rose in the fall to the other side of the wall so that it will drape on the wall (instead of away from the wall) and have the support of the wall. That's where it should have been planted in the first place. I'd hate to kill it in the process, though. It's large!...See Moremad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
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