ND is a very vigoruous rose, and expect that it will get much bigger next year. Mine is grafted and in its second year and is showing signs that it would be a monster. I also have its sport, Awakening, which was a two year old own-root and now is about 6 feet tall and wide. Last year, it did not grow all that much all year, and I am guessing that it was building up its root system.

They are both VERTY thorny, VERY unruly, and, for me, VERY hard to train. Bes ure to give your ND plenty of space, as it a ganster of a rose. My DW says ND is big, bad and beautiful.

New Dawn is one of the Earth- Kind Roses, which means you don't have to do anything to it to grow and thrive. It is a very cane hardy climber and boy does it grow!
Trivia question: What plant in the plant kingdom hold Plant Patient #1 Answer New Dawn!!!!!! Yes a Rose holds that distinction!

That is good to know - I'll just let it do it's thing.

What about transplanting it?

I may be moving next year - which would only have been 1 season in the ground for these plants... Are they ok to dig up and move?

Can you transplant roses?

It won't take New Dawn three years to achieve a large size. Watch out--you will be in for some serious pruning. I've raised several of these monsters (no more, thank heaven), and they can be challenging with those nasty thorns. Diane

"New Dawn" is a great older Large Flowered Climber. It does grow very large and tall

If against a fence, it will probably outgrow the fence and the space around it Expect to do some careful trimming to keep it under control. It flowers on old wood, so heavy pruning has to be avoided.

As already stated, the first few years of a climber are the "establishment" years. You'll want to put the emphasis on growing and training the foundation canes. But with such a vigorous climber as this one is, I wouldn't worry about a few blooms as long as your growing conditions are suitable.

The 'EarthKind' list varies depending on what part of the country you are in. For example, the list used for Texas is different than the one used here (actually, the one used in the NYBG, but that's the closest trial available).. Diseases and disease strains, growing conditions, as well as other factors., can vary from place to place which accounts for the differences,

"New Dawn" happens to not be on the 'EarthKind' list for this area, but it did "pass" the 'Ten Year Trial' at Longwood Gardens in Pennsylvania. Though an older variety, it is still an excellent climber if you can give it the space it needs.

Just FYI, for fence roses we tend to prefer the rambler types because they can be pretty much pruned/cut back as you want so they can never outgrow the fence. But that's just our personal preference..

I get confused about old wood and new wood, but I know from experience that you can prune her laterals hard and she'll bloom well on them. I take it the main canes are the old wood she needs, so it doesn't hurt to prune the laterals? Not pruned off, just much shorter than they like to grow.

I don't know about a fence unless you were to train her main canes horizontally from a low position. Then you could keep her laterals in check (hopefully!) and still see a lot of bloom. I see better bloom when I 'reinvigorate' her laterals; she seems to prefer that here. The really old wood doesn't repeat as well for me (and she's a hard one to pick favorite new basals with! Those thorns are vicious, so what's trained already is what I try to work with, lol).

I had to giggle when I saw the title, but I do know what you mean. She doesn't turn into a monster right away. But she will!

I transplanted one fine, but it was a layered baby without an extensive root system. Once she turns into a monster I don't know how transplanting would go. Before that you should be fine :)

Thank you all for your comments on this rose! I planted one this year from bare root and it is starting to take hold!! I have canes already training up my fence (staircase) with a wish that I can train it over a trellis over the years. The key thing for me is being patient as I hear that adorable three year rule (sleeping, creeping, leaping). I see so much growth in months, I am a little scared:-) but excited! thank you all!

I don't think transplanting will be a problem. :) http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/3767293/how-much-root-to-transplant

You can prune the laterals hard, but I wouldn't suggest you do that, as it will take longer for it to grow back and bloom. In order to bloom roses need to grow leaves. Yes, taking the buds off will allow it to grow faster.

I planted mine a year ago and can tell you to forget the three year sleep, creep, leap rule. Mine leaps over my head this second year and I am 6' 4" tall. Last year it had 6 flowers, now I stopped counting at over 200 buds.

Well I was going to shovel prune ND this season (2nd season this year) but I am going to give it another chance. Unfortunately my dad prune a third of the bush off. He said that it was damaged but I think he was motivated by the fact that he hate this rose..lol. However I see lots of laterals coming out. I wasn't particularly impressed by the flowers last year but I want to see it on a more mature plant.

3 of my NDs had winter dieback, it wasn't a cold winter, or just old canes were old. They don't look big now after I trimmed them. I rooted 3 baby bands last fall, planted next to the New Dawn won't repeat ( only 1 repeats out of 3), I hope 3 babies grow up fast. They're about 1' tall now. How big are your bands Jessica?

I have climbing roses 1yr but I haven’t seen any new growth on them as far as leafs or buds or anything. do I just need to patient with them a little longer to see any new growth on them or maybe i need some different soil to help them with there growth? I’ve been keeping them watered in once a week. and give them fish fertilizer every 6 weeks or longer. any ideas on what I should do to help my climbing roses grow and be happy in there spot? I also have them planted in full sun and the ground is sandy soil I think. I have heard certain types of climbing roses are more difficult to grow then others I might have bought a couple of types of climbing roses that are harder to grow.

Where do you live and what climbers are you growing? 1 year is young so I'd be patient, but let's see what you have first. Are these grafted, do you know?

I bought them bare root I can’t remember the variety I bought but I know they are not the same Type I live In East Texas I think one of them is called a yellow Jupiter it’s supposed to make yellow roses with green on the edge of the petal and the other one I’m not sure I just know it’s supposed to be very fragrant and have red roses I’m wondering if its not liking the soil I planted it in because when I planted it I ddnt use anything like miracle grow potting soil or anything like that I just dug the hole and I put some wood ash in there and it set in there a really long time before I even planted them

The first thing to have done was to cut it back, and not let it bloom until the bush was established. Make sure the plant is getting about an inch of water a week. Make sure you have mulch around it to hold water. Feed it. Wood ash is just Phosphorus, It is the middle number in a fertilizer such as 10-10-10.

Ok it never did bloom or put on new growth but the other u said I will do put mulch around it

Can you take a pic of it for me??? Maybe I can see something with it! Overall shot and closeup

please

I tried to put pics up this morning the site wasn’t letting me post pics for some reason I’ll try again later and see if I can get the pics to load on here

It looks dead to me. Try cutting down on a cane and see if you see any fresh white cane and green cane if you scratch the surface.

I got it to post one pic but not the other this site is being a real pain in the butt to get the pics to load on here but here’s one of em

Where are you Kaylee? You might have to start over like vapor says. Antique Rose Emporium sells great choices.

I’m starting over with climbing rose cuttings the variety is Don Juan my question is can I just dip them in some rotting powder and plant them and keep them watered and they will eventually just develop there roots over time? that would be my pref way to do it if it will grow it’s roots that way all the ways I have found to start them it shows you to start them in some type of container or something any help you can give me would be much appreciated

That in ground rooting plan may work in East Texas, Kaylee. Antique rose Emporium would know. It worked here in the Fall for Alberic Barbier. Rooting cuttings is never a guarantee. I would order a new one.

I would try that making sure to use a nice well-draining medium and keeping the leaves well watered or misted. If you had a slightly shadier spot with surrounding vegetation that might also be better, but I'm usually doing this Spring, Summer and Fall as opposed to Winter. If you have enough cuttings I'd try some in the ground and some in pots to hedge my bets. Perhaps use an inverted soda bottle with the cap removed to help hold in humidity. As Sheila alludes, buying another might be better, not only because rooting can be iffy, but also because it can take a while to grow a cutting to planting size.