Japanese Beetles in my yard apparently immune to Bayer & Sevin
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Darn - First Japanese Beetle Found Here Today
Comments (12)There are some organic products people use, but from what I've read, they repel and do not kill. If you do not kill them, they will burrow in your lawn, lay eggs, and multiply. One female can create 60 beetles per season. So you need to treat for grubs as well. Milky Spore may or may not work in my zone and is expensive. I'm going to try to get some Grub-X down but don't like killing earthworms. One product is Bye Bye Beetles, used by a rose grower in the southeast and recommended, an organic and repellant. See link. I may try it at some point, but didn't want to wait while it shipped and can't remember the cost. Saw my first one June 21 which was early, picked a few off and squished, started the soapy water thing. Then I cut back all my repeat blooming roses and am watching the rest of it. Haven't seen any since but that is not to say they will not find my echinacea, cherry trees, rose leaves, pussywillow or preference du jour. If too many come back, I will spray with Sevin. My primary reservation was bees, but if there are no flowers to attract bees, there's not much chance of harming them if I spray early am or late pm while they're out. My cat heaven knows what he gets his paws into roaming around, everyone treats their lawn, and I did for the first time this year in quite a few years, just got too awful, hated to do it, and nowhere near got it all, but much better. Some people cover their roses with nylon net and cut off the blooms which are the main attractant. Hated to sacrifice the blooms but won't use anything with imidacloprid because it kills bees, saw it myself, and has residual action. Also Sevin won't protect newly-opened buds. Pyrethrin knocks them dead (in time), think it's an organic, but doesn't last as long as Sevin. Then there are several home remedies involving concoctions I found recipes for on the web by googling, said to test on a small area first. Some of the ingredients are chili peppers, garlic, dishwashing liquid, lemon juice, vinegar, not all in the same recipe. A lot of rose people use Merit which you pour on the ground, must be done earlier and is a systemic, but if I'm not mistaken, it contains imidacloprid, bees again and other beneficial insects, does not discriminate. Good luck. My roses don't do a whole lot except two so let the perennials provide the color, didn't want to go through what I did last year again, in the hottest days, ruined that whole part of summer stewing about the dratted things. The only hopeful thing on the horizon is that some are reporting seeing some with eggs on their thoraxes? (white spots) and may or may not kill those. Those are laid by a parasitic wasp that destroys them when they hatch. But the gol darn things will mate first for sure as they do it sporadically before they die. I haven't seen any like that. There is also an ongoing experiment at the U of Michigan which involves innoculating adult beetles which will spread a killer virus from one to another, have been given to a few gardeners to test, but if it is safe, who knows how long before the rest of us get access to that? There are no known predators, some say ducks, maybe turkeys, chickens may or may not eat them but can't possibly get them all. No bird I know will eat them. Praying Mantises will, but it would take thousands to make a dent in bad outbreaks where they can number in the thousands and millions. That sums up what I've found so far. Hope it's helpful. Here is a link that might be useful: Peter Beales Organic Plant Health...See MoreJapanese Beetles destroying my block!
Comments (12)I used a professional formulation of imidicloprid when it was first released. It certainly is an effective insecticide. It was claimed then that it didn't translocate to the flowers. After I used it, not only were the target insects gone, but I found non-target victims who could have only been exposed to it through harmless feeding and pollen gathering. No other products were used, and I have no other explanation for their demise. The label on this product also stated it could only be used one time in a growing season. Since it does not seem to be phytotoxic, I presume that means it is very persistant. I have read that it is the most widely used pesticide in the world today and I have also seen the literature suggesting its use possibly linked to confusion and hive collapse in honeybees. I really hated to see it go OTC. It mimics the action of nicitinimides and what are we going to use when every pest on earth becomes resistant? As for only using it on wind pollinated trees, I noticed last year in my stand of corn (and we all know that corn is wind pollinated) throngs of bees and other pollinators. Just because something is pollinated by wind does not mean insects don't visit it. As for sevin, it's very lethal to bees, but at least it has a very short term life on plants. I don't use it either. I don't treat for JBs....See MoreDo Japanese beetles like ALL roses?
Comments (63)Fascinating conversation. Here in the Ottawa Canada area I never noticed any Japanese Beetles until a few years ago, although I've had roses for about 20 years. I wish they "just lasted a few weeks", but even here in chilly zone 4B the irridescent green vampires hang around pretty much the whole summer and into fall, sucking the life out of the rose blooms. Sure roses are bothered by other things, but nothing like the Japanese Beetles, at least for me. I have a very early rose (Therese Bugnet) that gets a few blooms out before they take over, but then it's a free for all. I have noticed that the most fragrant (Hansa and Blanc Double de Coubert) are the most popular and they don't even open before the blooms are totally covered and devoured even with twice daily visits and "debugging". They are less aggressive on my Knockouts and my Carefree Wonder, the Knockouts seeming to be the very least bothered of all my roses, but they are also the farthest physically from the most scented roses. After they find the roses they are on to the raspberries (leaves) and they bury themselves into the hibisucs syriacus (rose of sharon) blooms. Ah, yest they certainly do fly and probably 1/3 of mine never "drop" into my soapy water container, regardless of how many partners they are mating with at the moment or how carefully I "sneak up" or how close I hold the container. I did see a suggestion of using geraniums to "draw the beetles away". They are supposed to be attracted to them, eat the geranium flowers and then fall over and pass out like drugged party goers so you could sweep them up. Sounded worth a try. This article didn't specify a colour and I had bright pink geraniums. Even when I put the pots of geraniums directly under my handsome "Hansa" they didn't land on the geraniums. Since then I've read that it's the white geraniums that they go for. So, if anyone wants to give that a try, I'd love to know if the white ones work for anyone. Or I've also heard of using catmint, or members of the onion or allium family planted close to the roses Going to give those a try since many are pretty and purple anyway, but I think you'd need something with persistant leaves to keep the scent going. I'm thinking perhaps I should get more of the early blooming roses like Therese Bugnet so that I might enjoy the blooms before the vampires descend, but I really want my roses to bloom all summer and for as long as possible. Just as a point of interest I do work in a garden centre and none of our roses had a Japanese Beetle. I had to fight off other rose thugs that I don't remember, but no Japanese Beetles. Perhaps it's the fact that the garden centre is on pavement and not surrounded by lawn where the lady vampires (JB's) lay their eggs and the adults winter over. Mary...See MoreJapanese Beetles eating my Basjoo
Comments (10)The blue container line by Bayer works well. Check the ingredient list for imidacloprid. The also have a spray, but I prefer the tree and shrub drench - it is less messy and it last for up to a year. HOWEVER, WARNING - I have not tried it on my basjoo. It only gets a few nibbles occasionally. But I do use it on my hibiscus, crape myrtle and red maple. The old climbing rose and raspberries I leave for the beetles. After several years of using the drench, I find that the beetle population in my yard has dropped greatly. Of course, that could have something to do with the droughts we've had as well....See Moregardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
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