Hi Beth, it sounds like your world is looking up. I'm so glad for you. I'll let the California folks give you rose advice, since my climate isn't even close!

Welcome back! You won't need so many petals there since the roses won't blow so fast as in AZ, and mildew can be a problem, but otherwise, HB is gardening heaven. Enjoy!

Stopping in to say hello Beth! Hope you enjoy rose growing in California!

Hoov, do you live here? How about a walk on the beach so I can pick your brain. Quickly please, since I have 9 roses soaking. Huntington Pier; I bring the food, you bring your wife (chuckle).

Beth

Good to see you again, Beth. The white stuff could've been triple super phosphate, Dispersul or gypsum, I guess.

Did you replace that Bella'Roma or was it Heart of Gold you liked so much?

Hi, there! You have a great memory, but it was Voodoo that made me all oodoo.

I didn't tell you folks what I bought. I raided the J&P end of the year sale, and got 14 roses; Our Lady of Guadalupe (Fl, yellow), Nancy Reagan (HT, apricot), Beauty Within (Fl Yellow), Tahitian Sunset(HT, don't know what they call that color, chuckle), Gemini (Ht white blend), Angel Face (Fl purple, I know they say mauve, lol), April in Paris (Ht pink blend), Disneyland (Fl, who knows, every color), Aromatherapy (Ht, pink), Love (Gr, Red blend), Lagerfeld (I know they call this an HT, but my tongue would burst in flames), Olympiad (Ht, red and Saint Patricks (Ht, yellow hopefully green here in CA).

Anyway, are these good choice? I snuck some Fortuniana by paying an acquaintance for forwarding it. I am told they grow great on the coast, which is where they were originally planted.

I need planting tips specific to Heaven, California?

And you are right.... it was triple super phosphate. What WOULD I have done with out you. On the way to get some.

Beth

It is like riding a bike. I went to Home Depot for supplies; and all of a sudden I remembered my "rose medicine" for sick plants, and the numbers.

It took me one hour to set a plant in Phoenix; I set three in the same time. I just hope that the results are as good as AZ; we had two growing seasons, with a break mid summer, and in January if you cut them back.

So happy to be here again. Is our fearless leader still amongst us? I hope so.

Gratefully,
Beth

Just remember that you're in a completely, totally different growing environment than here so you may not need the TSP or 'sick rose medicine'. I'm still surprised when someone in Phoenix says they lime their roses, lol.

I forgot how much you loved Disneyland but guess I didn't know you liked Voodoo so much.

As we continue to ferry the youngest between UC-Berkeley and Phoenix, I'm hoping we'll pull off the road so I can see some of the wonderful public gardens in the LA area.

Unlike a newbie, I am appropriately frightened. Will go to the society here. Just hope my cultivar selections are appropriate.

I tested Disneyland and that pathetic Ronald Reagan (the rose, not the pres) for J & P, their first year . I notice they have him on Huey now; good choice. Since I only have room for lucky 13 roses, I want to get it right.

Always,
Beth

I could bring my husband. Hoover is the dog. I get to HB now and again. I think you will have outstanding roses there, though St. Patrick might appreciate more heat and you undoubtedly will experience the Joy Of Rust, which you may not have had in AZ, and which is no joy at all. The first winter rains will bring it. 'Lagerfeld' and 'Angel Face' will probably be the worst. The rest are pretty good where rust is concerned.

I'm about a mile from the beach and north of you, so my climate is pretty similar.

Of the roses you bought, I grow Gemini, Disneyland and St. Patrick -- all three do very well in my garden.

At a former home in the same area I also had success with Olympiad and Lagerfeld.

If you do any further shopping, please avoid anything that is said to be prone to rust as this can be a problem on our coast.

I agree that you might have put super triple phosphate in the planting hole, or it might have been bone meal.

Beth you could be a neighbor of a gal I went to school with. She never mentions it being real hot there but says that enjoying a walk on the beach at Christmas without a huge jacket like up here is so pleasant.

And yes if one of your roses had a problem with rust it will be Angel Face. I have seen it do very well here so it is not a rust disaster.

Saint Patrick may very well be green in the fall and spring when the temps are lower and the sun more defused by cloud cover.

Lance

Hi Beth, have you been to The Huntington Rose Garden? I've only been there once. Beautiful. Surely you could check out some of the roses you are wondering about there to see how they do in that climate. Met several rosers there. Great.

Here is a link that might be useful: The Huntington Rose Garden

Hoov,

LMHO.....

I didn't want you to think I was flirting; you can leave your husband home when we lunch. I left mine..... in Phoenix.

I remember your insightful posts.

And Lance, I couldn't give up Angel Face's sweet aroma. I will paint it lavender if I have to.

Beth

Hi Beth,

You're just up the road from me. I'm in Newport Beach. Our Lady of Guadalupe is fantastic in my yard, although it is not yellow as you indicated; it's pink. Gemini and Disneyland are also great around here. St. Patrick may have trouble opening in the spring; it usually needs a lot of heat to get those petals going.

- Azure (formerly known as HershiGrl)

Here is a link that might be useful: Rare Roses.com

Hi Beth, I'm up the coast by LAX.

My biggest problem year-round is mildew and I've been culling, er, 'losing through attrition' the ones that are the worst. Rust is annoying because it defoliates, but mildew, in my experience anyway, eventually kills roses. I fear many of yours will have a problem with it so I'd start thinking what to do about it now. Speaking for myself, side from the environmental concerns I have finally admitted that I am not disciplined enough to spray. Now I've gotten into OGRs, fwiw. Of the ones you have...

Disneyland - bullet proof, great little rose
Gemini - pretty blooms which make me keep it (for now) but really struggles with mildew
Olympiad - very disease resistant in the ground, HOWEVER, others didn't like being in a pot where they struggled and died from mildew.
Love - had it a long time ago, may mildew
Voodoo - loved it a lot, twice. If you're jonesing for orange, you might try Perfect Moment, mildews a bit but doesn't mind too much. Marmalade Skies is not as dark as Voodoo and a flori, but 'bout bullet proof. I think there are some other new oranges. I'd sure ask here so you won't be disappointed if you want orange or lavender colors.

Henry Fonda - not on your list, but the most glorious *non-fading* bright yellow with frilly petals, the DH's favorite.

Traviata - mine is the little engine that can. Some folks don't care for it because it doesn't smell, but I like the blooms and admire greatly it's complete resistance to mildew & rust. It did get defoliated by anthracnose a couple of months ago but you wouldn't know it today. Very upright.

Lastly, you need to look up Grandmother's Hat (hybrid perpetual, Jeri's favorite, divine smell) and Golden Celebration (yellow Austin, also great smell) using the search engine here and on the Antique forum. You absolutely can't do wrong with either, I think you'll love the pics but will swoon over the fragrances.