Anyone growing Happy Child?

14 years ago

I saw some photos on HMF from GardenWeb members; wanna talk about this rose? I was wanting a couple shorter yellow roses and was planning on Julia Child. The problem is that I cannot seem to get my hands on it!

Austins seem to do really well here, and Happy Child seems the right height and right color.

Who wants to weigh in?

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greenhaven
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14 years ago
*bump* which I don't get because noone has replied, yet?
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14 years ago
I have two of them. Good disease resistance although I spray but sometimes I get lazy and they don't BS. Mine are only year 2 but have done well. The yellow is kind of middle bright and fades but does not bleach out.

BTW, I have 2 Julia Childs in the same bed. Julia blooms a little more goldish and fades to the yellow that HC blooms, if you know what I mean. My Husband likes to push my buttons by saying that JC is orange but it isn't what I would call orange.

Kate grows this as well and is a good advocate for it.
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gardenmanya
14 years ago
I love it.My neighbors do too. Good disease resistance, blooms a lot and smells wonderful.One of my favorite yellows. Also stays compact, compare to many other Austins. Does not attempt to go into "octopus grow".A have " a group of three".I would say go for it.
Maryl (Okla. Zone 7a)
14 years ago
I grew it for 3 years (own root from Heirloom) because I wanted a compact rose for a container. I liked the flower form, the fragrance (marvelous to my nose), the color (bright yellow)and the above average disease resistance. It's repeat was average, and its stems were short and a tad on the weak side. However in the 3rd year a friend of mine commented that hers had a few Octopus arms growing, and then a few weeks later mine did too. I didn't wait around to see what would happen next. I gave mine away. In your cooler zone with a shorter growing period you may never have this problem.
greenhaven
Original Author
14 years ago
Thanks for all your replies! I ordered a pair to balance out my border bed...which kind of needs some help as we near the "finished" mark. As if anything in our gardens is ever really finished, right?

Anyway, maybe I'll post a pic and ask for some input.

Thanks again!!

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