Deadheading and rebloom on Excellenz von Schubert

12 years ago

Hi all,

Hope your summers are kicking off nicely. It finally warmed up here in Northern California in a BIG way.

Do you need to deadhead the flower clusters on EVS to get it to rebloom?

Does this rule apply to all Hybrid Musks, since I now also own Cornelia and may get a couple more HMs.

On a few of the clusters, I noticed tiny little bulbs that look like hips. Even if I don't necessarily dead head, should I remove the hips so that it reblooms? (I keep reading everywhere that once a rose sets hips it is done for the year.)

And do you just pinch/snip off the top of each flower stem, or can I snip off the entire flower cluster (i.e. the tip of the branch). I read that they react negatively to having too much pruned and don't know how much is too much for an HM.

Thanks for helping the newbie!

-KM

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landperson
12 years ago
I have found that deadheading the HM's keeps them looking good and reblooming all season long. They pretty much tell me where to cut: where the new growth has started, usually at the base of a leaflet set right back from where the flowers have died. Clip there and the energy doubles into that new growth and very soon you will have flowers again.

Susan
Terry Crawford
12 years ago
Hmmm...guess I'd better pack a lunch then. This could take awhile. Mine's pretty big. Thanks, Susan!
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landperson
12 years ago
Yeah, lunch is not a bad idea, as long as you can eat it with one hand and hold your trusty clippers in the other. I do my best deadheading in the early evenings with a glass of wine in one hand and the clippers in the other....

Susan
michaelg
12 years ago
For deadheading large shrubs and climbers, I get out the hedge clippers. It matters little or not at all exactly where you cut, whether you leave stubs or mash an occasional stem. You can do a very large plant in a very few minutes if you just whack away. I promise you that I've done this many times with no ill effects.
landperson
12 years ago
What? And give up my excuse for that late afternoon glass of wine???? No way !!!! :-))))))
jerijen
12 years ago
I do my best deadheading in the early evenings with a glass of wine in one hand and the clippers in the other.... Susan

*** RIGHT ON, SUSAN!!

Jeri

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