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New Roses, what's wrong?

13 years ago

Preface: I'm a complete newbie to plants and roses, so these are probably stupid questions, be kind.

So when I got my roses, I potted them up because the beds weren't ready for them. It has rained like crazy since then, so I'm worried they've gotten too much water. The rugosa has yellowing on the new growth and some of the old growth.

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I'm not sure what it is, or what to do. The bed is prepared, so I could plant it in the ground. Is it ok to move it after it has only been in the pot for a couple weeks?

These are the other two I got at the same time, neither of them have yellowing on the leaves, though there is some leaf damage on both.

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Basically, I want to know if it is ok to put them into the ground now (as soon as the ground dries a little), or if they need to stay in their pots for a while to get over being transplanted to the pots in the first place.

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Comments (4)

jerijen
13 years ago
Too much water can cause them to go chlorotic.
Essentially, if roots become too wet to exchange nitrogen, they will go chlorotic.
When the roots are not drowning, that will alter.
(Unless you live where I do -- where rugosas are permanently chlorotic.)

You might want to wait a few days to plant them, to be sure drainage in the planting site has normalized.

Jeri
catsrose
13 years ago
Rugosas don't like pots and they do tend to go chlorotic quickly. I'd get them in the ground asap. They will recover soon.
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buford
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We had a lot of rain this spring and all my potted roses look a bit chlorotic. Also my husband had been watering them every day without me noticing :) He remembered that they dried out last year, but wasn't factoring in all the rain we've had or that it's not the hot summertime yet. Either just let them dry out a bit or plant them in the ground. 2 of mine are in permanent pots so I just moved them away from the porch so hubby is not tempted to drown them anymore.
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13 years ago
For certain, the rugosa is showing iron deficiency. As others have said, it can be caused by waterlogging. However, from the porous look of the potting soil, I doubt the pot is subject to waterlogging. The other cause of iron deficiency is high pH. Rugosas want acid soil, preferably 5.5-6.5.

You could treat the pot (soil NOT foliage) with an iron product. If your garden soil is neutral or alkaline, before planting, adjust the pH according to a soil test using garden sulfur or micronized sulfur. This is more effective than iron supplements, but it takes a year to work.

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