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Input on these roses I'm considering buying please!

14 years ago

I'm about to get some and need input on these:

Nahema (climber)

Baron Girod de L'Ain

Bouquet Parfait (Lens)

Brothers Grimm Fairy Tale

Clementina Carboneri (how likely it will be Souv De Gilbert Nabonnand?)

Comte De Chambord

Cornelia

Felicia

Treasure Trail (Barden)

Archuke CHarles

Baronne Prevost

Blush Noisette

Don't hold back! :-) Thanks, Stasi

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oldblush
14 years ago
Well it kinda depends on where you live (geographically).
aimeekitty
14 years ago
I'm a newbie, but all four of these I've heard good things about. The others might be perfectly wonderful, too, I just don't know.

Felicia and Cornelia regularly get sung praises about
Baronne Prevost (really pretty!)
Blush Noisette seems to be pretty foolproof,... and it's charming being one of the first noisettes.
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"Cornelia" is my favorite Hybrid Musk, out of the 14 that I've grown, for its lovely dark green foliage and charming roses of strawberry pink- coppery pink. In my opinion Pemberton bred the finest Hybrid Musks... just my opinion.
I love Noisettes and have grown a dozen or so, the only one I got rid of was "Blush Noisette" because compared to my other Noisettes it was too plain, for my tastes. For a pink Noisette I much prefer "Catos' Cluster" which came from vintagegardens.com for it has an uncommon petal arrangement, my neighbor refers to it as "your carnation like rose" and it has very beautiful leaves, of soft texture and colored light-medium green, and a damask rose type scent. My other favorite pink Nosiette is "Champneys Pink Cluster" , we bought ours from the Ashdown collection, now sold at Rogue valley nursery, because Champneys Pink Cluster, bears dainty roses that have heart shaped petals which are cream towards the base and pink edged which contrast very well with the dark foliage. Re-bloom is very good, and it was one of the first Noisettes to start blooming this spring, in March. It is a rose that always draws me closer to adore its' beauty.
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-There has been a discussion on gardenweb between the merits of "Cramoisi Superior" versus Archiduc Charles, you might wish to read about the two before deciding on the best one for your garden. I love Cram. Sup for its cherry blossom fragrance, good health in our area, and rapid re-bloom.

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14 years ago
I love Archduke Charles, and it is one of the roses most-commonly fount in old CA cemeteries.
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14 years ago
'Cornelia' is tops; 'Felicia' is fussier and though pretty not as lovely as many of the Pemberton HMs, but it is one of the most fragrant roses there is, and worth growing for that reason. I have a high opinion of 'Blush Noisette'.
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rosymominzone9
Original Author
14 years ago
Thanks everyone, really appreciate it.

Any input as to which can be grown as climbers? I don't mind if they are short climbers either...Stasi
hemlady
14 years ago
Cornelia makes a wonderful climber here in NC and gets very little bs. Archduke Charles smells heavenly and is my favorite china rose, and I grow a lot of them! Blush Noisette blooms constantly, and needs no attention. I got rid of Felicia and Comte De Chambord because of blackspot issues. Denise

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