Theres like a thousand posts on here about "topsoil" every week do a search.

What you really want is not topsoil its garden soil.

curtludwig:
I got Garden soil....Miracle Gro Gardening soil...still had wood chips.
Guess I should have done a search for "topsoil" rather than "top soil". Did see a long thread sorta on the subject but no recommendations of product in it.
Will do another search.

There are so many producers that even if I knew of someone who might have what you want it still may not be available where you are.

Somthing like pro-mix would work but that is expensive. If you have a compost facility then sift that product to a fine particle.

Or use the top soil you buy and sift out the very small particles.

About 5 or 6 years ago i got some topsoil at Lowes that was loamy without woodchips in it. I used to cover some bare spots in my st augustine grass and within 1 month the bare spots were gone, loved it. Now I can't find it and no one seems to know where to find it. They told me scotts topsoil was the best, well it' been almost nine months and hardly any change. If anyone out there knows where to find topsoil without woodchips in it I would surely like to know.

Thanks

When a developer clears land they first remove the trees. Any logs that aren't veneer grade generally get chipped and sometimes the chips are blown out over the ground. Then the stumps are ground and following that the topsoil is stripped. If there is a lot of trees the chips are blown into 18 wheeler trucks and hauled off. As the plan nears completion a lot of the top soil gets sold off.

Another problem is that much of the manure today is full of wood chips because they use chips in the stalls as bedding. So if manure is added to the soil it will have those annoying chips. A source of manure without wood chips is a valuable resource that you shouldn't share.

Seeds won't grow in woodchips. Whether it's your zucchini seeds or the builders grass seed. That top soil is useless for growing seeds.

Do not mess around with any thing else believe me its all crap especialy the name brands like nasty Scotts and miracle grow trust me its all crap now except for very few which I suggest 3 different compainies 1. Fox Farms is the one I use and I have never ever had a problem one its just like the good stuff without wood chips and BS and it is organic as well;)))

It can be purchased at gardening supply nurserys, order from the company itself, and you can order it on amazon. amazon will deliver pallets of them if you need that much;))) same on ordering.

2. Bush doctor which I’ve used as well and I mix it with fox farms same on quality

3. Black Gold its considered the best its more expensive but very good as well.

same on ordering as well.

You will be delighted to see no wood at all, period;)))

Thanks brother! I cannot stand the garbage potting soils with 20-30% pine bark mulch. Fox farms looks MUCH better!

Some clarification may be needed here :-) This thread is about top soil, not potting soil!! The circumstances and growing conditions of inground planting versus container gardening are completely different and you cannot legitimately make comparisons between the two. Top soil is just not a reasonable or advised media for container gardening.

Also, better quality potting soils - those intended for container gardening - will always have a high percentage of bark/bark fines because they are an ideal component of a fast draining yet adequately moisture retentive soil media and because of their textural quality and durability. Fox Farms is no different.....its primary component is "aged forest products", meaning composted or partially composted hardwood bark.

If you have any doubts as to the validity of this, read the zillions of comments about superior potting mixes that can be found on the Container Gardening forum.

Actually this post is about "Is there any 'top soil' that has no wood chips anymore?"

it's about the wood chips, not about semantics.

I find that even mushroom compost seems to have more and more wood chips in it. Another name for good topsoil is Farmers Topsoil.

I used to have forty acres of land in suburbia which I wanted to develop. I had a John Deer 450 loader which I used to scrape off top topsoil at the approach to what would be the plan. There were two piles, one nothing but black topsoil, about 20 yards. The other black topsoil mixed with the clay underneath it; about 40 yards. I finally just sold the two lots and the remaining parcel to someone who knew what they were doing, but my attorney told me I still owned the topsoil. I tried to sell it and no one would even look at it. If it's not screened they didn't want it. There were no stones and only an occasional root. Just like you get when you buy "topsoil", mushroom compost, or bark, from these same sellers.

The "topsoil" they sell is clay mixed with mushroom compost which you can do yourself. Find composted manure with out wood chips in it. If you own or rent a pickup and haul one of these products and unload it. You can then get the other product and shovel it into a wheelbarrow, out of the truck, 4, 5, or 6, shovel fulls of clay and then one of the wood chip free mushroom compost from the pile next to the pickup. if you can find sand with very small (TINY) river rock in it you could also add some of that in.

There are lots of articles on determining what percentages of each you should see in a glass bottle when determining what your loam is made up of.

Do you garden, Ben Johnson? Just that I don't know many gardeners who think the difference between potting soil and topsoil is a case of semantics.