wood chips in bonsai soil affect pH
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Comments (8)Thanks to all. I have no concerns whatsoever about going the sulfuric acid route, particularly as I have a boxed bag of same sitting in the basement. To those who do the same, seems like I've seen a couple methods suggested on www searching, some do so at all watering with the pH of the water adjusted to a higher level (5.5-6.0), some do occasionally with pH adjusted down around 4.5-5.0. And then some suggest mag sulfate (epson salts) or vinegar instead with all watering. Anything optimal? Plants did have some yellow veining at beginning towards the end of their hardening stay and then first month or so after transplanted. Now all heavy green foliage, well being this is AK and all, now getting a hint of red, like I said maybe the Chippewa will have time, maybe not. My rock is granite mostly. The 35 year old AK log house foundation is get this pressure treated wood for the full basement. Who knows what is leaching from that, it is the old stuff with a lot of copper obviously and who knows what else, but the plants are about 8 feet out from the wall, I'm not too concerned. I'll go with the suggestion of bamboo_rabbit today and water all with water adjusted down to 4.5 or so. Thanks again....See MoreHow can I lower soil pH from 6.5 to 4.5 by Spring?
Comments (47)If drainage is a problem, you can use sand if you create mounds for the plants using a great deal of sand. A little sand can actually make things worse from research I've seen, but if you use something like a third sand by volume, mixed with a third peat and a third soil and create the mounds with this it should work fine. If you make such a mix without building mounds you may create bath tubs that fill with water and drown roots. You can also grow them in pots mixing 50/50- sand to peat and put them half way into existing soil- or make a mix with ground pine bark that is aged for the purpose (this is harder to find but more often used in blueberry production). If you set up a drip system or water them consistently, blueberries grow very well this way, if you put them in big enough pots. 5 gallon pots would support mature plants pretty well. Is your soil clay? Do you know the texture of your soil? This is something that is not at all obvious and people often are confused about the texture of their soil. This is also where your county cooperative extension can provide better advice than you can get on-line- although there are simple tests using dishwater detergent to get a general reading on your soils composition. Drainage is easier, because you can figure out how long it takes to drain after heavy rains or dig a hole and fill it with water several times. Not sure of the exact procedure but it is an easy search for details....See MoreCorrecting soil with pH 7.15 for acid loving perennials?
Comments (13)I'd use iron sulfate before I'd use aluminum sulfate, but neither will have as much effect as sulfur. I may be wrong, but I think the main reason that iron sulfate is faster acting than sulfur is because one of the effects of high pH is iron deficiency. The iron sulfate doesn't bring the pH down nearly as much, but unless you've got pH like David52 and I have, the iron sulfate will provide some readily available iron right away (around here, the pH is high enough that the iron in iron sulfate is not available). Something that can very quickly (and very temporarily) lower the pH are to add a quart or twoo of vinegar to a 5 gallon bucket of water and use that to water. If there are pool supply places nearby, you can probably buy some granules that can be added to the water to drop the pH in pools. I think most of these have sulfur in them and turn the water into either sulfurous or sulfuric acid. If you get really desperate, you can use muriatic acid (I think it's something like 15-20% HCL). If you use muriatic acid, make sure to add the acid to the water and not the other way around. These approaches are fast, but very temporary. With your weather and native soil, a temporary fix may be enough, since that'll give time for the soil to move toward the norm for your area. Karen--A number of things contribute to making soils either acidic or alkaline. Weather is actually a big factor. Areas that get a lot of rainfall tend to have more acidic soil and areas that are arid tend to have alkaline soil. This is mostly due to the minerals and elements that get washed away with the water (somewhat related to this, arid areas often suffer from problems with salt buildup). In recent years, the acidifying effect of rain has become even more pronounced where acid rain is an issue. There are other factors, as well. For example, there are areas in Colorado and Utah that have acidic soil despite being arid. The reason is that the soil content is mostly crushed granite. I would assume that southern Ohio gets enough water, so your alkalinity must be due to the makeup of the soil itself....See Moresoil pH questions ...
Comments (43)Posted by gardengal48 PNW zone 8 (My Page) on Tue, Oct 2, 12 at 18:52 ---"RpR, for someone rather new to these forums, you certainly have developed some rather strong opinions about what and who are appropriate topics or meaningful posters. Since there is a considerable history of meaningful and informative and......get ready for the BIG one........accurate posts by those you seem to disparage, maybe you should just sit back and watch and learn before putting your foot in it any further, hmmmm??????"--- Hmmmm. Did you write this right after going over to the mirror and saying- Mirror, mirror on the wall...?...See More- 18 years ago
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