Shade Tolerance: Renae vs. Veilchenblau?
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Comments (15)Colorado is a lot warmer than here. I grow several climbers. They lose their canes down to the ground here because of the dry air, not the temperature. There are people who grow climbers in New England, but they get 30 inches of rain a year. I moved Zephirine Drouhin to the shade after studying Zeffy Rose's pictures of her massive Zephirine Drouhin. She has a lot of shade. Zephirin Drouhin makes some blossoms for me now. Most climbers bloom on old wood, so choosing a repeat climber might be a better idea. They bloom on new wood. ZD blooms for me on the north side, with shade from noon to dark. I also have Dutchman's Pipe there and P. G Hydrangea and Annabelle Hydrangea. P.G. blooms here in August, Annabelle blooms in June, and Zd blooms in July. There's also Ash leaf spirea, which is just about done blooming. Madame Plantier and alba maxima are very tough here. I haven't tried growing them in shade....See MoreRenae rose on archway.
Comments (17)List of roses that do well in hot humid conditions: Renae rose, thornless pink, climbing, idealy grown over fences, archways pegolas, lovely perfume. Crepsucule, low bushy growth, apricot flowers, ideal for low fences. Dutchess de brabant, climbing or shrub form, climbing variety ideal for tall fences. Sarah van fleet, rugosa rose, extremely thorny, great as a barrier. Mutabilis, large showy shrub rose. Cornelia, shrub of climbing rose good for fences. Madam issac pereire, large rose for fences, sheds or walls. Buff beauty, shrub - climber, found to be slow growing, needs good mulch and care, beautiful nodding blooms. Veilchenblau glorious coloured truss's of purply flowers, thornless rose, tolerates some afternoon shade, which also helps prevent the flowers from fading too quickly, thornless, though not a large grower. Carrabella vertally thornless, great for fences near walkways. Lamarque beautiful climbing rose, hardy and healthy, link to pictures of mine: http://www.au.gardenweb.com/forums/load/gallery/msg1019300421008.html I grow these roses in my garden and I live in Coffs Harbour NSW, they all grow very well here....See MoreSurvey/opinions/experiences: which purple tolerates shade the best?
Comments (14)Thank you all so much for your thoughts and suggestions! I am always asking my roses to stretch a bit, one way or another. It must be the teacher in my soul, scaffolding those under my care to reach just a little higher! Additionally, I have found that a number of roses can adapt to significant shade, and some deeply colored ones appreciate conditions which protect their blooms from direct sun. Monarda, your experience with Veilchenblau in shade matches mine. I recommended it to Fogrose in years past as a shade tolerant cultivar but am unsure whether she tried it or how it performed for her. Sheila, thank you for even more confirmation of Veilchenblau's shade tolerance and for the amazingly beautiful photos!! They capture everything I love about this purple rambler. Breathtaking! How are EaB and Russelliana behaving for you in sun? May I ask what you like best or not-so-much about each one? Lee Ann, it is interesting that your Veilchenblau did not thrive in shade but others have. I am inclined to grow another in plant in shade and begin a thread just on Veilchenblau and forum members' experiences regarding degree of shade tolerance. Location, climate and immediate conditions deeply affect all living things, and I am reallly curious about the effects on the various "shade tolerant" rose cultivars. Monarda, thank you for the wonderful photos as well! I love the side by sides of Russelliana and Emily D's wallpaper!! You have tapped my inner history and literature buff. I believe you may have nailed the cultivar on Emily's wallpaper which means, of course, that I MUST plant Russelliana in my garden! There is no frigate like a book...or an antique rose. I am beginning to think that I also MUST grow Ex von Schubert! Monarda, Claire and Bart, thank you for your opinions on this classic lavender. I wonder how much remontancy Ex von S would demonstrate in my shady beds. Claire, maybe your climate is similar enough to mine to indicate ExvS's potential behavior in my garden. I like what you're saying about the yummy purple color and the fragrance! I am tempted to plant ExvS and find out if he can handle a bit of shade here. I am also considering Verdi. A neighbor grows what I believe to be Verdi in quite a bit of shade. She gets a big flush and a few scattered blooms each year. Marlorena, I am positively infatuated with your GdD! Those photos are swoon worthy!! Isn't this the rose that you once described as producing THE perfect shade of dark wine-red? I think you were also searching for others of that ideal color. Perhaps there are none which quite hit that special note? I am adding GdD to my shade list. I grow Souvenir du Dr. Jamain in shade, and in exchange for his sheltered placement, he offers blooms which remain velvety and unscathed. Carol...See MorePurple/mauve/lilac roses
Comments (81)Ah, now THAT is more like what I would expect a Lavedar Crush in your garden to look like, BenT! LOL. Mine is no more than 3 feet across and about 6 ft tall now after February's freeze knocked it back almost to the bud union, but I am stingy with the fertilizers. I grow my free-standing as I would have expected it to be a little stiff to pull off what you have accomplished. Yours is spectacular (as I would expect!) I'm generally less than thrilled with the architecture and health of mine, but it stays for its other wonderful attributes. Now you have me reconsidering my reconsideration as to whether or not to acquire Poseidon... ;-) I gather you are as generous with water as you are all the other niceties a rose would desire, and could not speak to water needs? (I am guessing yours is own-root?) Thanks for that info on P.Skyliner, frances_in_nj. That one has been on my radar for a while. I think Star Roses might have wrapped up its evaluation of the Kordes rose Carmen Wurth, a nice new pink-mauve that has gotten stellar reviews in Europe. Will be curious to see if it made the cut and gets introduced soon....See Moreroseseek
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