Bleu Magenta has no cane loss

16 years ago

My Madame Hardy is grafted to rosa multiflora. Rosa multiflora comes up from below the graft. A couple years ago I never got around to cutting it off so it over-wintered. The canes were green and supple next spring. I began to read up on rosa multiflora and found a horticultural experiment where they tried to kill it at zone 2 and couldn't.

Around this time John posted the beautiful pictures of Bleu Magenta on an arch at Mottisfont. So I got one and Ghislaine de Feligonde, too, just because John hates orange flowers. Though I had this vision of a picture of them with a Montana sunset in the background.

There's absolutely no cane loss for either of them. They are both rosa multiflora crosses. They were plunked in the ground as bands with no winter protection.

It looks like a solution for the North. Even those Canadian Explorer climbers get lots of cane loss here.

One drawback to Bleu Magenta is it has no scent, but Ghislaine does.

In other climber reviews, Ash Wednesday got some cane loss but doesn't look too bad, same with Madame Plantier.

Ash Wednesday is a rosa eglanteria cross. Fact is, my rosa eglanteria hedge has to be pruned a lot, and i think it naturally does have a short life span for its canes. Being rampant in growth, it doesn't matter.

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berndoodle
16 years ago
Kaylah, do you have lots of snow cover? What's your altitude? That's pretty remarkable hardiness.
twohuskies
16 years ago
That IS very interesting. I bought Ghislaine 2 years ago and though it has survived so far it kills down to the snowline. I was thinking of letting it meet the shovel this spring but maybe I should wait? Please do tell more......

I love those little flowers.
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kaylah
Original Author
16 years ago
That is discouraging news, twohuskies. Snow cover may very well be the thing. They are still such babies that they were under 2-3 feet all winter. I guess I should not have said anything until they get bigger, and I can see what happens to the canes on the trellis.
I've been growing Dr. Van Fleet and American Pillar for years, and only the canes down close to the ground survive. I've thought of trying to grow them vertically instead of horizontally. OR planting them in a giant pot with a trellis in it. At the end of the summer, tilt the pot sideways and let the canes lay on the ground and cover with hay.
Berndoodle, I'm at 5000 feet. it's supposed to snow again tonight.
Reading up on hybrid multiflora roses at helpmefind was kind of interesting. Some were rated zone 6, some zone 4. Many had no scent. Some repeated, some didn't.
I think all you can do is test them. I'm pretty sure Bleu Magenta is going to be okay and guess what, no scent at all.
twohuskies
16 years ago
It is such a gamble with some of these roses. I believe High Country Roses has GdF rated for zone 5 (or was it 4???). But right now for me it doesn't seem much worth growing if I'll only get a couple of blooms off the little bit of cane left after winter.

Here is a picture of my GdF taken this morning. I pulled the mulch back to find the live cane. Unlike the last few years we actually had really good snow cover. I'll bet GdF had 1-2' of the white stuff all winter long.

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kaylah
Original Author
16 years ago
Yeah, that doesn't look so good. Although, those are nice sized canes there, and Ghislaine is a repeat bloomer, so I'm assuming you'd get some blooms on the new growth.
I still think it is the spring wind that burns up the canes, not temperatures. Besides checking out eglanteria and multiflora hybrids for better hardiness, I've been thinking of building a contraption.
Printshops get large cartons of paper, at least 23 inches by 35 inches. These boxes have a flat sheet of cardboard inside them to protect the paper. Generally, at least around here, they'll give them to you. You could make quite a large cover for a climber out of these, then fill with leaves, grass, etc.
Then you should water it so the filling is moist.
If that doesn't work, I'm giving up climbers. I'm going to check out Blossomtime and Geschwinds Nordland rose. Zone 4 and zone 2, respectively. Nordland rose has no scent.
Fact is, it seems like a lot of climbers have no scent. And I've come to the conclusion that scent is the most important thing. So all I want is to find a couple that will make it around here.
This year I've got Alchemist coming. Brownell Golden Glow crossed with rosa eglanteria. Golden Glow's parents are both hybrid wichurana, so I don't expect too much luck. Around here, though all we had was the Gurney's catalogue when I was a kid, which sold lots of Brownells. I can remember some old ladies growing Golden Glow.

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